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Too many Elite mobs ingame..

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Too many Elite mobs ingame..

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ArmchairMagpie
01.25.2012 , 08:19 AM | #71
I must admit I solo'd most elite quests on my healing-specced Operative and many world champions included. I remember the debates on General chat when I said I solo'd the full Assault on Fort Alde using Kaliyo for tanking. Nobody believed me even when I posted a screenshot, I would later Kaliyo tank formidable opponents including some crazy Jedi master champion (that was a real tough one, took me a while to master the disciplines to solo that one). And even parts of the quests with the many champions in a row in Voss I managed up until last boss which turned out to be a little too devastating even for my BiS-kitted Scorpio.
Actually the only things which I tend to interrupt are heals, armor-piercing casts and those deal real hard aoe damage such as Orbital Strike.

Now in the meantime I am playing Jedi Sentinel, Sith Juggernaught and Trooper and whilst I have to group a little bit more than before I can't get out of the "must beat this solo" mentality sometimes. I solo'd champions on my Juggernaught, I solo'd some 2-man quests on all of them with relative ease (dieing because you learn the fight is still included into "relative ease"). Otherwise I am happy to group as tank or dps on them.

Overall I hope they don't nerf anything but rather bring some mob debuffs and abilities in line as in: silver mobs should never be more tough than an equal elite. In Hoth you have this case of silver Talz Commandos hitting harder than Jedi Elites/Champions which is just wrong.

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CptBrit
01.26.2012 , 03:38 AM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by Mirura View Post
My experience with this, as I posted on the previous page, is wildly different having played Gunslinger as my first character.
Up until level 40 there is no such thing as a Gunslinger companion suitable for fighting melee Elites. Ranged ones are even downright easy much of the time. Melee ones, however, are so ridiculously overpowered against Gunslingers there really needs to be something done either to improve melee defenses pre-40 or a healing companion given far, far earlier into the story. CC is insufficient to keep the mobs at bay since they hit like trucks while you're on cooldowns. Pre-40 companions go down in seconds and leave you exposed to die. Everyone I know that played Gunslinger has complained about this.

I've had to abandon a number of solo missions since they had you pitted exclusively against melee elite mobs, multiple ones, and I've been running with myself and my companions kitted out in the best crafted gear I've been able to make for the level with up-to-date skills. I pop all of my cooldowns and use every trick available. Still, 2 out of 3 times the melee elite will rip me into shreds if I'm not running with Guss.
At one point it goes beyond being a challenge and turns into frustration, and that's where it stops being fun. That's where I abandon the mission and do something else entirely. I doubt this is the reaction the game is intended to elicit.
Sorry your having trouble but this isn't the games fault, Just overlevel the content. I've been overleveled on my DPS Merc since Balmorra. Yep I leveled the sh*t out of Hutta and Dromund Kaas so much all the quests were green on Balmorra and with Smatterings of Space Mission Dailies and PvP dailies and the Odd Flashpoint (I've only done every flashpoint once and I don't do the dailies everyday.) I'm now Level only about 1 hours gaming away from 40 and I haven't finished Taris yet. I'm actually now in the opposite boat to you, with most groups of mobs been totally p*ss easy. Yea they can damage me but with a decently geared Mako for Bosses and Gault for everything else (And soon to be Torian full stop!).

Honestly try doing a few PvP battles it is actually quite fun now all the level 50's are off playing with one another on Ilum or their PvP Bracket.
Sa'rahi Sheph'erd - The Mercenary | Marxon Sheph'erd - The Guardian
Tae'Ruk Sheph'erd - The Juggernaut | Mysha Sheph'erd - The Sage
Leona Sheph'erd - The Assassin | Temo'rel Sheph'erd - The Vanguard
Mykael Sheph'erd - The Operative | Lel'Liana Sheph'erd - The Gunslinger

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thulias
01.26.2012 , 03:48 AM | #73
What's wrong with the elites in this game, I can't get it: it's part of the game, it's even affordable that sometimes you die trying to kill these mobs, what could be a game where you never die? I think it would be boring
Creating this kind of mobs so widely spread in heroic areas developers sponsored groups (so you can even know new friends), I suppose
Thulias Cloudsabre

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DukeP
01.26.2012 , 04:15 AM | #74
My lvl 41 Gunslinger actually enjoys the challenge.

Theres a wast aray of possible combinations vs. different opponents.

Droids are a piece of cake - Sith Sorceres my biggest gamble.

I cannot solo champions. Or at least, only very rarely. They have too many HP's for me to quickly tear them down. That aside? Combination of rolling around, kicking and aim+knockbacking deals just fine with melees. And yes ranged ones (apart from the sith's)? Cakewalk.

I play with my little space princess as companion, which is a rather DPS heavy combo.

I would like to hear which melee elites at lvl 40 are too tough? I might simply have missed them and would love to test them out.


~~DukeP~~

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Quirnheim
01.26.2012 , 04:26 AM | #75
Just want to say: Some classes don't have CC. I as a Jedi knight at level 20 still have none, so it's a race against enemy health fighting an elite + strong, or 2 strongs, etc.
"What's this? Shakin' down travellers?"
Zadren
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LordSatoh
01.26.2012 , 04:31 AM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by Gunryu View Post
I was trying to go get a datacron on my Smuggler, the datacron had a gold elite with 2 smalls next to it and a mob in front of that, I downed the mob in front it then got the 2 smalls was fighting the gold and the mob spawned behind me and killed me..........yeah that was so fun I gave up on the datacron.
Oh boo hoo. A tiny challenge and I back up. Good luck in real life.
Peace is a lie...

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CptBrit
01.26.2012 , 04:36 AM | #77
Quote: Originally Posted by Quirnheim View Post
Just want to say: Some classes don't have CC. I as a Jedi knight at level 20 still have none, so it's a race against enemy health fighting an elite + strong, or 2 strongs, etc.
You Guardian or Sentinel?

I had zero problems on my Guardian once Kira got some good gear...

In fact all I needed to do to "Push the I Win Button" was keep Kira alive and whailing on them with her Double-Bladed Whiffle Bat and mobs died. Fast.
Sa'rahi Sheph'erd - The Mercenary | Marxon Sheph'erd - The Guardian
Tae'Ruk Sheph'erd - The Juggernaut | Mysha Sheph'erd - The Sage
Leona Sheph'erd - The Assassin | Temo'rel Sheph'erd - The Vanguard
Mykael Sheph'erd - The Operative | Lel'Liana Sheph'erd - The Gunslinger

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Raelstrom
01.26.2012 , 04:36 AM | #78
Quote: Originally Posted by Kunra View Post
Too many Silver Elites in general grinding/questing areas, imo.

And do we really need almost every single quest to end with a Gold Elite(usually with multiple mobs around him)?
Wow, never have any issues with the Strongs in the areas I quest. I love finding Elites so that I can take them out and get the extra XP they give. I have never had an issue with Strongs or Elites in any given area. I am playing 4 different characters with a minimum level of 20 and current high level of 47.

If you are having issues with the MOBs in any given area I think you should update your equipment. I know it can be expensive. Especially, if you are crafting as well. You will be more than happy if your gear is within 3 or 4 levels from your current level at the most.

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daMarek
01.26.2012 , 04:44 AM | #79
I agree with OP. Too many silver mobs.

I don't think they are too hard, but it takes the excitement out of fighting strong mobs if every other one is strong. They should have harder regular mobs instead of spamming all areas with elites. Use them sparingly and save them for the good parts. Oh well

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Quirnheim
01.26.2012 , 04:46 AM | #80
Quote: Originally Posted by CptBrit View Post
You Guardian or Sentinel?

I had zero problems on my Guardian once Kira got some good gear...

In fact all I needed to do to "Push the I Win Button" was keep Kira alive and whailing on them with her Double-Bladed Whiffle Bat and mobs died. Fast.
Guardian - and I don't have problems with most mobs, but 2 strongs is overkill since I can't CC one of them.
"What's this? Shakin' down travellers?"
Zadren
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