Bioware caved in to the forum whines, prepare for the start of a doomed pvp game.

You're wrong fellah. I am a sawbones (healer) scoundrel 2 pieces short of a full champ set, 15700 health/10% expertise. With my screen on and unstun on CD, an operative with similar gear that jumps on me will leave me with 2.5k-5k (depending on crits) health by the time I get unstunned and can do sth about it.

I am a healer, I can survive this easily if we're 1on1(which rarely happens) and even give the op a run for his money even with my pathetic dps. However, a gunslinger or sentinel can't. Not even 1on1. A geared op/scrapper that knows what he is doing can take ANYONE out of the picture in a matter of seconds with the right support or a sentinel/marauder/gunslinger alone with a full health bar to boot.

Now top that with the fact that 90% of an imp wz op is 3sorcs-Sins/1-2ops/1-2mercs, at least on my server. I can tell you before the match even begins what the outcome will be unless my side has a similar setup.

The class imbalances are ruining this game. I haven't seen a single marauder/Sith warrior or Knight/Sentinel in 20 matches since Monday this week.

So you see, you don't even need metrics. You can witness the issue repeatedly in a few wz matches on my server alone.

no they didn't gabe confirmed today in an interview that the formula used to calculate power and strengths of a class was not calculated right for the op/scoundrel and that were some factors were not taken into account. With new data were able to plug in missing variables and discovered *gasp* they were doing to much damage to fast. Thus are being brought in line with other classes.

Where did you hear that, can I see the source? Also Gabe just happens to be dumb as a bag of bricks and I wouldn't rely on his design whatsoever. He's the man that came up with the retarded concept of expertise in this game, a stat that's here for no good reason at all.

im sorry to say but ever since devs of any game with online access have been able to modify their game however they please ,especially multiplayer games they will always change things, i have no idea why any of you think this is new and regardless for good or ill ,all games with multiplayer will get stuff changed because nothing will ever be balanced or can be balanced especially with how diverse we all are

Justified nerf in all eyes except the fotm rollers.
No more 2 ro 3 solo kills when all cooldowns are up.

Now get back to earth and L2P what was said to us when you facerolled your keyboard.

What i fin dfunny is that some people in this thread still claim Ops/ Soundrel dont need to be nerfed.....***.....?

Once you are on a even playing field with the rest of the classes pvp becomes THAT much better.

Because they dont need to be nerfed. They already have been, 1.1 fixed the buff stacking which was the issue. No longer can ANYONE kill you in 3 seconds. Period. If you want to claim other wise, prove it. Give us a vid or screenie of it happening after the 1.1 patch. There's a thread floating around in which over 30 pages of replies not one person can show it happening post 1.1

The simple fact is that all these butthurt sorcs and sages (I.E about 60% of the player base) are still raging at OPs and want them nerfed into the ground. They are your counter, just like tanks are the counter to OPs.

Sorc/Sages want to be able to faceroll everyone, hence the rage against OPs.

Um, isn't that the definition of OP? You're overpowered because of your class, not skill. Or are you automatically assuming anyone who is an Ops/Scoundrel is just an awesome player no matter what.

If you say, bad players will still get rolled by good players, that would make more sense.



Please give me the evidence that you "know" bioware nerfed anything because of forum complaints "solely".

Also, if bad players are still gonna lose and good players are not affected by the nerf and are still winning, how exactly is this ruining the game? Is winning based on class, not skill the only way to enjoy a game?


Haven't you realized with all your so-called expert opinion on mmo's because you have so much knowledge about them, that balancing is a normal thing and that companies DO actually test their mechanics aided with the forum input?

I mean your comment about how they read the title of the thread and then the post count just to make business decisions to their product shows a very limited spectrum of knowledge from you.

Of course Ops needed a small nerf, they were coming out of stealth and killing people without them being able to do a thing about it.

Tell me how could they have there own metrics about Ops/Scounds OPnes when 1.1 patch came in with 50s warzone and removed lot of buffstacking like 2 weeks ago and post patch i think Scrapper specced scounds/ops got brough into line , i myself play scoundrel hybrid heal spec full champ gear and i can survive there burst without any problem...

Post 1.1 patch scoundrel burst was severly brought down due to not being able to pwn those lvl 11 ppl in wzs then those same ppl cried lol lvl 50 with full pvp gear killed me in 3 sec ... Yea i guess everyone should have had bolster to 500 exp gear so gear farming wasnt needed and everyone had same gear with bolster...

They do have their own metrics and have been open and honest with valid reasons to every change they have made. If you don't agree that's your problem. I guarantee they didn't nerf because of the vocal minority, unlike almost every other MMO out there.

You honestly don't think they can't test **** on their own? They don't need the metrics to come from LIVE warzones derp derp...