No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

I am not sure what is wrong with just using common courtesy in an MMO. it's not like you can sell the gear you ninja'd for any real money and money is super easy to get.

As far as the orange gear is concerned, i guess there is an argument to be made there but is it really that big of a deal. You get so much orange armor and weapons in this game it's not like you are not ever going to get another shot at an orange. I was all orange by lvl 30 i think.

If the armor or weapon has a stat on it that can only be used by a certain class and its an upgrade for them then it should be NBG in all instances. If it is not an upgrade then another class can roll need if the mods would be an upgrade for someone else. If it is not an upgrade for anyone then it's fair game for companions as well.

To me it's just common courtesy to ask others before needing on something, and/or working out a system before you start the instance.

Not sure why this is even ever an issue. I have never had a problem if we worked out loot rules before we started an instance.

IF WE WANTED NINJA LOOTING WE'D PLAY EVE ONLINE!


Have a need for class and a need for mods.

Behaving like an adult is not related to being adult age wise.

I've never seen a game cater to selfish casuals so much as this one.

Whaawhaawhaa, because I can roll need I deserve to!!!!!
Whaaaaawhaaawhaaa, macros are unacceptable and elitist, but advanced quest tracker is a-ok!!!

Could go on, but really, BW didn't just fail to foster a quality community, they seem to have actively fostered a terrible community, one that may even make the WoW community look good.

ferroz...

You are completely hopeless. And good luck to you, Bob, Alice and Carol. You guys better stick together or you're going to have a hell of a time finding people who'll actually group with you later.

The problem isn't JUST that it's orange. I personally have no desire to wear IA looking gear on my Marauder, but I could see how some would. Orange Items were put in to allow that type of customization. Some may say, solo the Flashpoint once you are able to, to get that item, except you cannot. As a Marauder, only Warrior orange gear, aside from weapons, has ever dropped for me when soloing. And i'm not saying I would roll for it even if I did want it, but far too many feel that they have some entitlement to the item, when it clearly was designed with looks customization in mind. Again, this is related to orange items.

To add to that, ALL the orange items I get from missions on my Marauder are Sith Warrior types. And like I said before, soloing a FP, still Warrior types. We can only get FP IA looking gear in a group in a FP. Again not for or against, but many see it as "it's my stats it's mine!", or rather entitlement. You have no entitlement until it actually hits your inventory. It's not theft unless they literally TAKE it from you, and if it has never hit your inventory, it's not theft, regardless of what YOU THINK the word theft means.

EDIT: Forgot to add, I do agree with the rules set before you enter the FP, feel free to blacklist or whatever if those are violated. But otherwise there is no claim or cause for the argument against. None.

Why are MMO forums the only place on earth people justify something by saying "Well, I CAN do something therefore it means I SHOULD do something?"

I CAN pee in the sink, but it does not mean I SHOULD pee in the sink.

I can actually sympathize if people don't understand the concept of class-specific items, especially in the first flashpoints.

If the item is Orange AND Class Specific, then yes, I can agree. If it's not bound to that class however, like a Marauder wanting the looks of IA gear, I can go over it in my head over and over and still come to the same conclusion. No one is entitled to the item until they get it, Orange items were made primarily with looks in mind, so if that's why a Marauder wants it, I cannot see an issue with it. The only thing I CAN see is people who feel because it has stats for their class, which can be changed mind you, they have some sort of entitlement to it. And if they don't get it, it's stolen now, when it's not.

I understand what you are saying and i never said anything about theft.

I just think it is courteous to ask if it is not secifically an upgrade for you. I have never had anyone say no when I asked if I could need on something that no one else needed especially if it was for cosmetic value or for my comanion.

Not sure where people get this mentality that if it says i can nedd I will need no matter what. If everybody just asked I think a lot of these issues would be moot.

Well, that's the thing, the game is not catering to any one group. It lets the roll of the dice decide.