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How to get Battlemaster in a day

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How to get Battlemaster in a day

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HellsWrath
01.25.2012 , 01:27 PM | #61
Regardless of how easy it is for people to do this, it is still exploiting. "Because it's easier/faster" is not justification for exploiting. Man up and do it right.

No Dev has ever said that kill swapping is not exploiting. This is common sense for anyone who has been around in MMOs for any period of time. Anyone able to prove me wrong, feel free to do so. But it will take proof.

My only concern at the moment is wondering how long it will take Bioware to fix this issue. They certainly need to make a statement NOW to prevent more people from thinking this is acceptable behavior.

As for actual action, that's the tough one. Someone already said it, but any action they take to change game mechanics will likely make it harder to legitimately gain valor and participate in PvP. However, something has to be done.

For starters, they need to roll back characters who have been participating in this (just rolling back all valor/gear would be fine). Anyone who was helping to organize/recruit for the kill swapping should face temporary bans at the least.

This kind of activity is not acceptable and should not be accepted by our community. Anyone saying otherwise is likely covering for themselves.

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kimmiekros
01.25.2012 , 01:37 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Redderic View Post
pretty sure that anyone under level 50 can no longer go there.
havnt seen one under 50 since 1.1
not every server has people kill trading i guarentee we dont do it on our server because **** imperials.
Not true, there was a level 12 on illum on my server during the graveyard hours. Nothing prevents a low level from traveling to illum.

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Khremlin
01.25.2012 , 01:42 PM | #63
Remove the details on graveyard porting from original post. No need to advertise the tech error exploit part of this - fixing the human error exploit is another thing altogether.

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kyuyu
01.25.2012 , 01:47 PM | #64
Last night on my server, I observed this behavior in Republic Base. The sheer amount of ridiculousness is astonishing. Massive amount of people stacking and aoeing down.

I almost ragequit. Basically I will no longer be competitive unless I participate in this exploit, but I refused to cave in. This leaves me little choice. Either I reroll alts and wait for BW to fix it or I leave this game.

Did BW anticipate this behavior? Or are they naive enough to believe that players genuinely interested in PvP at all? Most so called hardcore PvPers don't enjoy PvP for the sake of it.

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DarkKnightCuron
01.25.2012 , 01:50 PM | #65
The only thing I can think of that could possible 'fix' this particular situation would be to load in a kind of 'failsafe'. Essentially, if X number of characters from both factions are within a certain distance from each other and are not actively attacking one another, condition Y occurs. That condition could be anything from severe valor penalties to possible insta-gib all characters in that small area instantaneously. I'm not a developer or a software engineer, however, so I don't know it's even feasible.

Or, just follow the suggestion someone else posted. Reduce Valor gains to the same level and rate as WZs.

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Fokman
01.25.2012 , 01:52 PM | #66
Its pretty obvious this is exploiting a game mechanic and that should be fixed ASAP. That being said it is a pvp server and there are certainly individuals with the same mindset as your own. My advice is get a group, dont play along with their crap, and kill all that you can. We used to do this all the time to ppl we found trading on illum post launch and while it pissed off alot of the ppl trying to trade on our side, it was a hell of alot of fun. The only problem i can see with doing this now is if they have population capped the zone with entirely ppl who want to trade.

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nemhook
01.25.2012 , 01:54 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Soulaufein View Post
Bioware needs to make an example out of this people, fast and in a very public manner.

If what you say is 100% accurate, I honestly feel...cheated.
BW caused this problem in making Ilum what it is right now, they have either accepted this can happen or all the devs who designed it or long haired, glasses wearing geeks

This has to be a fact as who with any major MMO experience could never think of what will happen.

WHAT?, did they think implementing a 30 kill a day would make people go around solo or would they group up to zerg, if they never considered the zerg option and that one side would be outnumbered, then they have bigger issues that deciding which cousin to date.

either charging in and attacking or standing around and letting the other attack is just a bigger scale then standing there and letting 2 beat on you because your outnumbered.

I myself have not done this, which is why i am still 30 valor since our server just zerg as its 3-1. to make it worse putting in armourments in the game is a cheap *** way of saying we force you to pvp but let the bigger side gear even faster and gather them so they don't need to be inconvenienced by the lack of numbers they forced upon us.

i applaud the inventiveness in a broken piece of crap pvp zone.

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Kayleth
01.25.2012 , 01:54 PM | #68
I'm guessing you haven't seen the old WZ flavor of this.

There's win trading in WZs too for leveling alts. And on low-pop times on my server, you see people que up on repub side to get a match going, then log out and back in on their empire players for the match. WZs are great when it's 8 vs. 3 =/ Not turning off legacy names ftw.

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Kuari
01.25.2012 , 01:56 PM | #69
I hope you send an in game report as well as this... it'd reach devs quicker.
Standards are made to be broken.
- Crie - 50 Sniper - Engineer spec -
- Kuari - 35 Assassin - Tank spec -

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Crowleyz
01.25.2012 , 01:57 PM | #70
They will eventually give up and turn Ilum into Wintergrasp. I just wish they'd do it sooner rather than later, cuz atm it's a concept they will never get just right. The area is far too large in comparison to their "allowed" server population, the faction populations will most likely continue to be largely unbalanced and there is no real way to "win" Ilum. The valor rewards for camping republic base is really low and hence most people simply go somewhere else after they've finally gotten their quest complete.