No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

I'm gonna have to disagree, you can also roll need for companions. Unless they changed it with out announcing it. You can also roll need if you just intend to sell it. It's a simple matter of playing with a guild or friends to prevent all these issues. I never understand how people who don't pay my sub fee expect me to play for them.

And you'll probably be looking for a group shortly after. Of least if i'm in the group you'd be looking for a healer.

We aren't telling you how to play. Feel free to roll need just don't be surprised in 2 months when you can't find a group for anything.

Team work is greater than selfishness.

Do you mean how people that you play with expect you to play with them?

That doesn't make the people who feel entitled to the gear any less selfish or greedy.

Nasically all you're saying is that it's traditional to be selfish in particular ways and not other ways...

No, they're not standard across all mmos, and it's not as all-pervasive and old as you might think.

I remember having these discussions on both the EQ forums and the castersrealm forums even after PoP was released. I remember specifically in PoP talking about NBG on armor molds (group based armor set) scrolls (level 61-64 spells) and runes (level 65 spells), and several discussions on the tradition that some servers had for reimbursing clerics for the gems they used. During that there were people participating from servers in EQ did not do NBG loot; there were lots of variations on ths: some didn't do NBG across the board, some did NBG on armor molds but not other items, some did NBG in some camps and not in other camps etc.

Even on the servesr where people usually did NBG, it wasn't always the case. During velious, if you were in lower guk and got into a frenzy group, it wasn't reasonable to expect people to roll NBG on the FBSS when (or if) it dropped on my server.

Quite a few, though I agree less than we have now; games have moved radically away from the group centric model over the last decade so that it only really shows up at the level cap now.

He rolled a marauder.

He's a waste of space already. Why did you even bring him to the flashpoint? A companion would have been more useful.

This is a no-brainer. I support the OP.

"Whether it's an upgrade or not is really irrelevant."


It's not irrelevant at all. You're spending time in that flashpoint for gear upgrades. That the whole point of flashpoints in the first place. You run them for gear. otherwise, you'd run them once and never step foot in them again. The fact is that some idiot that doesn't know how to play/has no common courtesy rolls need on items not intended for their class when you could have fully benefited from the item is them robbing you of your time and making the game more unpleasant for you at the same time. The moron in this situation is being selfish and self centered. Not the person who had his/her entire purpose of them being in the FP stolen away. If there is someone in your group that can fully benefit from the item, you pass. Plain and simple. Doing anything else makes you a very poor person and I'm glad that these people will eventually be black listed and not invited to participate in groups at all. Maybe once they have to reroll a couple times to be able to participate, they'll learn to be decent and respect other's time and effort.

No, it's quite irrelevant.
No, YOU're spending time in that flashpoint for gear upgrades. Bob is spending time in that flashpoint looking for enhancement upgrades. Alice is in that flashpoint looking for companion upgrades. Carol is in that flashpoint looking for a specific orange item to look like what she wants to. I'm in the flashpoint because I like stabbing stuff with my lightsaber.

That's the whole point of flashpoints in the first place. People do them for different reasons.

The fact that you feel like you're being robbed is unhealthy; you should try to be less selfish.

So are you; in fact, if you complain about not getting it because you feel entitled to it, you're being MORE selfish and self centered than he is.

If you think things are being stolen away from you, you're feeling entitled due to your own selfishness.

If you actually want to be selfless, you pass on items that other people want even if you also want them.... even if the reason you want them is because they are a stat upgrade. Plain and simple.