No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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HanzoV

01.25.2012 , 11:10 AM \| #151
I've been playing since launch, but I only grouped for the first time last night...when one of my RL friends bought the game. All I can say is play with people you know, whether that be guildies, RL friends, or other people you trust in-game. SAY NO TO PUGS
TORtanic indeed. It's just like that movie that was hugely successful and made boatloads of money. This is an MMO. Whether you play with or see the other players is irrelevant to that fact.

Eldren

01.25.2012 , 11:13 AM \| #152
Quote: Originally Posted by CBGB ...if anyone in that class is with your group. I can't believe I'm posting about item rolls, or about this issue. People worry too much about loot, and I'm a big believer in just enjoying the game. But poor claims hurt group dynamics, and there's no need for this kind of thing. Today, a Sith Marauder rolled Need to get this Cademimu Sharpshooter's Jacket +34 Endurance +38 Cunning +18 Critical Rating when I pointed out it was made for an Agent, like me, he said he intended to strip out the mods and trade them. When I noted that the mods are Bound, he insisted that since he could wear it, he could roll. More surprising was that when he brought the issue to /General, a few voices agreed. Most did not, but the others need to know that sort of claim i's a party-breaker. This is clearly an Agent item - a huge upgrade in my case - and my next group will get a little less healing as a result. One of the pleasures of running Flashpoints is the chance to get gear suited to you. If it's better suited to someone else, leave it for them. In general, if an item specifically notes a particular class, I leave it alone unless I'm playing that class. But you have to realize that you don't get exclusivity on any items in the game. No item is yours until you win the roll and it's in your inventory. If they helped down the boss, they have a right equal to yours to stake a claim to that item via whatever priority roll they choose to make. They don't need your permission, they don't require your approval. You can talk about how it'll get them blacklisted on their server or kicked from groups all you like, the end result is the same: they rolled on an item that met a need they perceived they had. Stop worrying about what other people are doing with their characters. So you lost a loot roll. The item will drop again, or you'll find something equivalent (or better) in another Flashpoint.
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Kirska

01.25.2012 , 11:14 AM \| #153
Quote: Originally Posted by ferroz personally, I think that anyone kicking up a fuss about not getting what they think that they personally need is clearly being more selfish than any of the people they're ranting about. Your logic is incredibly flawed. Just about every item that drops is specifically designed for a specific class. Suggesting that someone who fits that class and intends to use the item as the designers intended is more selfish than someone rolling on an item intended for a class not their own is absolutely asinine.
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zandadoum

01.25.2012 , 11:15 AM \| #154
Quote: Originally Posted by Kirska to mean you will equip it for a stat increase. which is exactly what i am doing when i roll on a sorcerer item to rip the crit mod out of it to use it on my bounty hunter.

ferroz

01.25.2012 , 11:15 AM \| #155
Quote: Originally Posted by HanzoV SAY NO TO PUGS Pugs aren't the problem The problem is you feeling entitled to the item just because you want to equip it, and then being disappointing that you didn't get it. The people who are *really* being selfish are the ones that kick up loot drama, not the ones who hit "need" on the item that you wanted. Really, folks should try being honest with themselves about this... masking your own greedy selfishness with "I need X" is the problem.
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Xabana

01.25.2012 , 11:15 AM \| #156
No, Eldren. It's not that simple. There is an element of fairness and gamemanship that should be pervasive among all MMOers. Stop pshawing bad behavior based on bad reasons.

Xabana

01.25.2012 , 11:16 AM \| #157
Quote: Originally Posted by Kirska Your logic is incredibly flawed. Just about every item that drops is specifically designed for a specific class. Suggesting that someone who fits that class and intends to use the item as the designers intended is more selfish than someone rolling on an item intended for a class not their own is absolutely asinine. X It's such an inept, illogical argument that one can only assume he crawled out from under a bridge to write it.

Kirska

01.25.2012 , 11:16 AM \| #158
Quote: Originally Posted by Eldren If they helped down the boss, they have a right equal to yours to stake a claim to that item via whatever priority roll they choose to make. It has absolutely nothing to do with "earning" an item or having the "right" to an item. It has to do with common courtesy, treating others as you would like to be treated, etc.
Kirska Nal'tai - Imperial Agent

Loreki

01.25.2012 , 11:16 AM \| #159
I'll generally need for mods if I ask, and its evident no one else needs. Otherwise I wouldn't dream of just taking a piece without asking where it wasn't class-appropriate.
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ferroz

01.25.2012 , 11:17 AM \| #160
Quote: Originally Posted by alanhurst Or how about all the times over the years in every mmo,tanks and healers are in short supply. Moron dps rolling need on the upgrades healers and tanks need to do their job well are partially to blame for this. I'd say that these "moron dps" are actually less common than the "greedy, self entitled healers and tanks" Quote: Healers can't heal effectively without the gear Tanks cant tank effectively without the gear DPS cant DPS effectively without the gear fixed.
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