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Sickboy_
01.25.2012 , 03:30 AM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by Husanak View Post
Dalnar has a point... we have a well played marauder in our group... when he pops his buffs its game changing. I will throw a guard on him he will pop his predition buff and we will FLY into battle litterly.
I'm bitter that guardians suck so bad at pvp. Sents at least can put out some respectable damage, guardians cant even when fully dps specced and geared.

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Dalnar
01.25.2012 , 03:34 AM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Sickboy_ View Post
I'm bitter that guardians suck so bad at pvp. Sents at least can put out some respectable damage, guardians cant even when fully dps specced and geared.
Not really. Guardians can perform very well, especially in 1v1 situations. You can literally play with your target while he is unable to do anything in right build.

Throw -> Leap -> dmg -> push -> leap -> dmg -> stasis -> dead. If you have unremitting talented, you are immune to CC in the process.

I have both sentinel and guardian and both are very nice to play, but have different playstyle. Now if i had force push on sentinel...that would be OP

I'm just slighty bothered by the lack of hybrid options on sentinel and that for these classes roots are basically hard CC and not affected by resolve.

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Husanak
01.25.2012 , 03:35 AM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Sickboy_ View Post
I'm bitter that guardians suck so bad at pvp. Sents at least can put out some respectable damage, guardians cant even when fully dps specced and geared.
Hard to argue that... the only dmg they do is spamming smash.. and that seems so boring. It would put me too sleep... sort of like spamming tracer would.

Its funny... if you want to do the Jedi/Sith tank... it is a 1000% more fun too do it as a shadow / Assassin.... 200% more dmg... 90% of the tank... oh and stealth. The slightly less armour makes the BH / Trooper armour killers a real pain... still you can quickly inerupt them knock off half their health and most players will freak out and do something dumb allowing you to kill em.

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Husanak
01.25.2012 , 03:40 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Dalnar View Post
I'm just slighty bothered by the lack of hybrid options on sentinel and that for these classes roots are basically hard CC and not affected by resolve.
That bothered my as well... the trees don't have very many synergies. Still there is really only one Class that does have a nice design that way.... the Inq / Conc....

All the OP Sorc / Sage talk... really is just a byproduct of the very very nice tree design they have... and it carries over too the more melee focused Shadow / Assassin. None of the other classes have the viable build options that both of those ACs get. They freed up lots of the locked into X form stuff that was in the Sent/mar tree back in beta... still you can't for instance go up the bleed tree and NOT spec at least one point into a Joyo only skill... the other classes aren't pigeon holed as much into one form or the other. For instance its easy for an Assassin too go 3/4 up the DPS tree and still use the tank form... with out wasting any skill points.

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Sickboy_
01.25.2012 , 03:41 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Dalnar View Post
Throw -> Leap -> dmg -> push -> leap -> dmg -> stasis -> dead. If you have unremitting talented, you are immune to CC in the process.

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You're forgetting one thing: Our CC is affected by resolve, so the combo you posted would never work in a real pvp match.

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Nocorras
01.25.2012 , 03:42 AM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Sickboy_ View Post
nope, nobody is actually talking about assassins when they talk abotu melee, we're almost exclusively talking about jedi knights and sith warriors, both which are by far the worst pvp classes in the game.
They're the worst if you aren't good at the class, or have bad gear.

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Sickboy_
01.25.2012 , 03:43 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Nocorras View Post
They're the worst if you aren't good at the class, or have bad gear.
I'm going to assume you haven't actually played a guardian before.

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Nocorras
01.25.2012 , 03:44 AM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by Sickboy_ View Post
I'm going to assume you haven't actually played a guardian before.
I'm going to assume you haven't played most classes before.

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aleiro
01.25.2012 , 03:44 AM | #59
Guardians need some love on vigilance tree, focus tree seems ok. I still dunno why a class that has stealth should do more damage than me but oh well...everybody has the "wow" mentality where if you are a guardian you can't dps and this my friends is not true....
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Sickboy_
01.25.2012 , 03:44 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Nocorras View Post
I'm going to assume you haven't played most classes before.
Thank you for proving my point.