As a warhammer veteran, this brings back horrific memories...

http://i.imgur.com/AubIC.jpg

I played Warhammer heavily and was the highest PvP rank on my server for a few months, yet the Bright Wizard community was in EXTREME denial about the power of their class. They would throw massive hissy fits anytime anyone suggested that they needed to be toned down.

The sage/sorc mirror here isn't as bad as the Bright Wizards are, but it's pretty obvious they offer a "better package" than almost any other class in this game, they have versatility in spec and yet have no problem pumping out more damage than even a "pure" DPS class like me (Gunslinger) while dropping 10-40k heals when the pressure is on.

They dont need any major nerfs, but toning them down is practically common sense at this point. Yes this is a pre-50 bracket but I think it's hugely indicative of what's coming to the endgame if Bioware doesn't do something about this class.

Edit: I completely expect Sorc/Sage rage in this thread. Bright Wizards were also completely enraged about any suggestion that they be nerfed, despite the fact they were literally the most broken class I've ever seen in 14+ years of MMORPGs.

no. try again.

I would love your response on a screen where there is only inqisitards present

These threads about DPS spec'd sage/sorc outhealing dmg comming in is BS. As a fully spec'd Sage healer with 501 expertise I get dropped in seconds and cant out damage 2 people on me. No way a 3 SECOND heal that heals for 2k outheals damage comming in.

Prot pally healers in WoW, death knights in early WOTLK, frost mages during the past 3 years, ect, act(ed) exactly the same way. It stems from the fact that they know they're overpowered and gamebreaking, and want to continue being OP.

They're like the kid that says "rock paper grenade" during rock paper scissors, so that they always win. To them it doesnt matter if they win via a cheap exploit and broken mechanics, or actual skill, winning is everything even if they have to cheat.

sorry , i dont remember my slow boil (word of pain) ever critting for 4k+

BW's were a blast to play. One or two could hold off an entire army with a healer or two behind them.

Then they made the short little tanks nearly invinsible. Warhammer failed terribly at any balance other than maybe levels 1-20. 1-10 being the most pvp fun.

Playing gunslinger wrong

Yes. This does remind me of bright wizards and of early vanilla rogues.

A lot of classes are in denial about what IS overpowered and what is NOT overpowered. This goes even for people trying to get the classes nerfed. It's somewhat amusing.

But honestly? I think maybe people need to just sit back, relax, and let everyone get geared up so we can really see what's what when rateds hit. Balance really doesn't matter that much in pugs, it DOES matter in rateds.

We need a nerf. Not a huge one, but we should have to sacrifice some damage to have the cc we have. We can't outheal damage specced as a dps. That's bs.