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Sincere plee to consider the side-effects the Op nerf will have

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Sincere plee to consider the side-effects the Op nerf will have

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Vashiel
01.24.2012 , 10:09 PM | #41
Quote: Originally Posted by OsirisZoran View Post
You're right it was your classes ability to kill just about any other class in its opening volley of abilities without them being able to really defend against it. Welcome back to the rest of the other classes who cant kill someone in under 5 seconds and will have to work for your kills.

Honestly the changes are great because there was a lot of bad OP players that bragged about how good they were in pvp because they could 3-4 shot people. Now they'll be rerolling since they have to work for their kills but the jokes on them because every other class has to work for their kills. NO MORE FREE RIDE FOR OPS/SCOUNDRELS
And we're back to square one. You can't counter any of my points so you resort to the safe mode of our damage being too high.

Look, I don't care what it is you are choosing to believe, but an Operative can't kill anyone in under 5 seconds. An operative can't take someone from full health to zero in under 5 seconds. Once Jarring Strike is over and an Operative has to fight toe-to-toe with any other class, it's a completely different story for the Operative. We don't have any sustained DPS. This is fact you can't deny. If we lack sustained DPS and have little survivability, what exactly are we going to be able to do when that burst is nerfed? Will you promise me that when the patch goes live as is and Operative damage is so low we move to the bottom of the food chain that you'll personally apologize and tell me how right I was? Can you do that for me?

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Gorra-Syn
01.24.2012 , 10:15 PM | #42
This is all proof that BW has no idea what they are doing.....

Sorc/Sage do mass damage and it's ranged.. and dont forget the bubble.
Trooper hits like a truck,wears heavy armor, and it feels like every shot is some kind of cc that slows or roots you. Should we talk about the BH's and "tracer missle, tracer missle"??And don't even get me started on a healer that takes 2 or 3 people to kill because they can self heal for so much. Hey I know BW.. lets nerf the LEAST played class in the game.. these people need to stick to rpg's and leave the mmo's to people that know what they are doing.
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Niaoru
01.24.2012 , 10:15 PM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by OsirisZoran View Post
a use for group stealth in pvp? How about on voidstar when you have 2 operatives stealth to the door, one starts to plant bomb while the other hits group stealth and allows the othre operative planting bomb to be stealthed.
That was fixed for Smugglers, but not Operatives. Thanks Bioware, obviously you don't favor the Empire or anything.
Niaoru - V65+ Scoundrel/Scrapper
ePeen - Republic PvP/PvE Guild

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OsirisZoran
01.24.2012 , 10:15 PM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Vashiel View Post
And we're back to square one. You can't counter any of my points so you resort to the safe mode of our damage being too high.

Look, I don't care what it is you are choosing to believe, but an Operative can't kill anyone in under 5 seconds. An operative can't take someone from full health to zero in under 5 seconds. Once Jarring Strike is over and an Operative has to fight toe-to-toe with any other class, it's a completely different story for the Operative. We don't have any sustained DPS. This is fact you can't deny. If we lack sustained DPS and have little survivability, what exactly are we going to be able to do when that burst is nerfed? Will you promise me that when the patch goes live as is and Operative damage is so low we move to the bottom of the food chain that you'll personally apologize and tell me how right I was? Can you do that for me?
i think Operatives need to learn to play better. I think yall have gotten to accustomed to killing people easily that you've forgotten your tactics. Perhaps yall need to respec into medicine more to be more effective as a support class in pvp (like i did).

FYI everyone who cruises solo in pugs can easily get face rolled or do extremely well depending on the opponent makeup. I have been flat out domainted rolling solo in pugs against 4man premades and such.

What you need is a tank to put guard on you and for you to spec into medicine some to keep them alive.

CHANGE YOUR STRATS CAUSE DAYS OF EASY KILLS IS OVER. DO WORK!
Lord Osilia Zoran
Level 50 Sith Sorcerer
World Terror Federation <FED>
Helm of Graush server

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OsirisZoran
01.24.2012 , 10:16 PM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Gorra-Syn View Post
This is all proof that BW has no idea what they are doing.....

Sorc/Sage do mass damage and it's ranged.. and dont forget the bubble.
Trooper hits like a truck,wears heavy armor, and it feels like every shot is some kind of cc that slows or roots you. Should we talk about the BH's and "tracer missle, tracer missle"??And don't even get me started on a healer that takes 2 or 3 people to kill because they can self heal for so much. Hey I know BW.. lets nerf the LEAST played class in the game.. these people need to stick to rpg's and leave the mmo's to people that know what they are doing.
sorc/sage do not do massive damage unless you just let them free cast on you all day (which any class can do if you let them) and you can interupt healers easily. Learn 2 play.
Lord Osilia Zoran
Level 50 Sith Sorcerer
World Terror Federation <FED>
Helm of Graush server

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Niaoru
01.24.2012 , 10:17 PM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Gorra-Syn View Post
This is all proof that BW has no idea what they are doing.....

Sorc/Sage do mass damage and it's ranged.. and dont forget the bubble.
Trooper hits like a truck,wears heavy armor, and it feels like every shot is some kind of cc that slows or roots you. Should we talk about the BH's and "tracer missle, tracer missle"??And don't even get me started on a healer that takes 2 or 3 people to kill because they can self heal for so much. Hey I know BW.. lets nerf the LEAST played class in the game.. these people need to stick to rpg's and leave the mmo's to people that know what they are doing.
They kinda know what they are doing. Information about the nerf was released shortly after all the Ilum QQ. It's smart for them to nerf the least played class that all the mid level characters(the majority of the subscribers) complained about, because it made them a little less angry about the state of the game.
Niaoru - V65+ Scoundrel/Scrapper
ePeen - Republic PvP/PvE Guild

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Gorra-Syn
01.24.2012 , 10:18 PM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by OsirisZoran View Post
sorc/sage do not do massive damage unless you just let them free cast on you all day (which any class can do if you let them) and you can interupt healers easily. Learn 2 play.
Hmm well we know what YOU play.. bend over cause your next.
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Vashiel
01.24.2012 , 10:18 PM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by OsirisZoran View Post
i think Operatives need to learn to play better. I think yall have gotten to accustomed to killing people easily that you've forgotten your tactics. Perhaps yall need to respec into medicine more to be more effective as a support class in pvp (like i did).

FYI everyone who cruises solo in pugs can easily get face rolled or do extremely well depending on the opponent makeup. I have been flat out domainted rolling solo in pugs against 4man premades and such.

What you need is a tank to put guard on you and for you to spec into medicine some to keep them alive.

CHANGE YOUR STRATS CAUSE DAYS OF EASY KILLS IS OVER. DO WORK!
So you're saying that in order for Operatives to succeed in PvP, they MUST spec Healing? That completely goes against what BW wants for this game. Please, leave this conversation. You're clearly a biased and inexperienced player who doesn't know what they're talking about.

A class shouldn't be pidgeon-holed in to one spec because it's alright to nerf the other in to oblivion.

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Newsinz
01.24.2012 , 10:19 PM | #49
Your not the only one heh Scoundrels got the nerf bat too.

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Vashiel
01.24.2012 , 10:20 PM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Newsinz View Post
Your not the only one heh Scoundrels got the neft bat too.
No, I know y'all did too, bud. It's just easier to type Ops and since I'm playing an Operative sometimes I forget about my Scoundrel brothers.