Premades.. Seriously?

Yeah, I'm not having fun anymore since hitting 50. Its all geared premade vs pug.

But is is funny that those who are in regular premades tell you to L2P and get yourself a premade. But then, they also don't want a premade only queue. So which is it? They want everyone to just find a premade somehow, yet they don't want to have to always face premades either. Who'd be left?

But whatever...this game does not have as many subscribers as WoW and if they don't address something that is very unfun for most of the people, the game is guaranteed to fail and end up free to play, and then die off slowly.

If they wanted the game to be one where you shouldnt' really pvp unless you have a dedicated group, then advertise it as so, and I woulda known and passed on it.

Not exactly sure what you're implying here. You couldn't possibly be trying to say that voice communication has nothing to do with premades being able to communicate better than pugs. That certainly wouldn't be one of the reasons why premades predominantly roflstomp pugs now would it?

I refuse to jump through hoops to get into a premade. I just don't like the MMO playerbase enough. You guys suck. You remind me of Family Guy fanbois. I hate that show.

Premade vs premade is pretty much the norm in warcraft. If you're playing with friends and coordinating, why not have a challenging match where you're playing against another team of coordinated friends?

I find premades more effcient and the overall game play is more enjoyable and i get to match up with my friends

But if you didnt realise thats generally what the Imps were doing for quite some time but with 50's just suck it up and learn to group up its an MMO cooperation is part of the game learn to play ffs

Even a Premade can be messed up with a bad selection of extras 4 players you can queue with for Warzones so 6 other players are random so its still luck of the draw and also don't forget skill of the players.

OP,

I don't know if anyone has told you yet but the point of competitive PVP in online games these days is not to cultivate skill and find a challenge. People are much more entertained by roflstomping and that's the norm and they'll fight tooth and nail to keep it that way.

What I got from that was..

'There are times I want to win and others I want to lose, there is no reason not to have the option of both'

BTW they have already announced that ladders are in the process of coming to the game. It is just not the time for them yet. Remember when people kept complaining about the 50 bracket? Well they got it and now the same people are complaining that the 50 bracket is too slow and the Q times are too long. Now imagine them adding another bracket for different ladder groups... or promenades on their own bracket. Non of you would ever play. The game needs to mature to a healthy number of lvl 50s before any of that can be achieved. PERIOD

You have picked the wrong genre game buddy.

I already answered this:

So in conclusion...


The same type of player who joins a Pre-Made, is often the same type who is terrified of playing against other Pre-mades; weak, inferior, and sub-standard. (like it matters; it's only a video game)

They make any excuse that comes to mind, when truthfully, there is none. There could easily be a cross-server Pre-Made-only system in place. The rest would be PUGs vs PUGs. But (at least) some of those who form Pre-Mades will wail and gnash their teeth against it.

Because they are those who needed to make a Pre-Made in the first place.


REAL PvPers who also made Pre-Mades WANT to fight other Pre-Mades. The pretenders don't.

They were weak 1 on 1, weak in PUGs, and know they'll be weak in Pre-Made vs Pre-Made.

So basically, the only problem here, is that sucky players who run to pre-mades, then do all they can to make sure they never have to face another pre-made. They have a hard enough time against PUGs.

What they do one on one, unless they have a 25 level advantage or 4 of thier friends around is RUN like babies. I dont have a lot of time to play so i pug alot, hence lose a lot, but i alwys fight to death and never ever run, its so coward like. Before they moved the 50s i was shocked at how many 50s who fled. They are definately a cowardly bunch, and again they are 'premaking' themsleves so they get the fast easy valor. They do not want to have to actually PLAY vs another premade.