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Legacy names -- allow us to change them

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Legacy names -- allow us to change them

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gregordunbar
01.24.2012 , 11:21 AM | #651
The sad thing about this is that it is going to get WORSE with the upcoming legacy family tree...its as if Bioware hates Roleplayers or something.

Hey I know, lets make a system that will make players take their Twi'lek and place them in the same family tree as their Human to unlock leet skiils! gawd...

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somehuman
01.24.2012 , 12:40 PM | #652
The idea that all my characters are literally in a family is just stupid. How can I have a sire (main character) that's the same age as the rest of his family? I'm confused as to why there was a room full of developers and THIS system would make it out without a huge majority voting it down.

Nothing about the legacy system makes sense. A surname is something you pick at character creation. You shouldn't choose it halfway through leveling up. You shouldn't be mandated to share surnames on every character.

The legacy system is fine if it has NOTHING to do with naming. Let the name system be totally different. Let the legacy system JUST be another xp bar that you have to fill up.

I'm not even a roleplayer. I just think the current legacy system is really stupid and doesn't make a bit of sense.
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SethMcloud
01.24.2012 , 12:48 PM | #653
Quote: Originally Posted by AJediKnight View Post
Well, yes, this would certainly be ideal.

Have you ever seen the system in LotRO? It's geat. In Lord of the Rings Online, surnames:

1) Are not unique, so you can create familes, etc.

2) Are not linked to the first name, so, like in TOR, a character's first name remains the unique element, so you don't have to worry about someone pilfering 'your' name if you're John or Fred or something.

3) Can be changed at any time by the player.

Can you still have a legacy name without linking it to surnames? Of course. Absolutely. And it would still be just as effective of a system without the two being linked.

As it stands now, every player who takes surnames seriously must either come up with some ridiculous, stupid, far-fetched explaination for why their sith pureblood Sith Warrior is related to their human Trooper, or must hide the surnames entirely on every alt.

And, in the situation where your alt becomes a main? Well, you're just screwed, pal! Because, hey, only one surname per server, and our game is so ***-backwards in terms of programming that we, Bioware, can't even change them!

Maybe not with THIS much level of freedom but I do support this idea. Maybe even paying in game currency to change your name. Certain RPers would LOVE this feature. Maybe allow the "legacy" to be unchangeable. That would be acceptable as long as the surname part was able to be changed and possibly separate. PLEASE BW I would love to see this happen!

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AsianRob
01.24.2012 , 04:18 PM | #654
I just want to change my repetitive legacy name

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ELECTRICJUDGMENT
01.24.2012 , 07:18 PM | #655
I for one think the legacy system is quite awesome, and I really hope they don't separate the legacy points from the surname because that would be undermining the whole purpose of the legacy system, which is for your character to have a legacy, similar to Anakin and Luke Skywalker or Leah and Jacen Solo. Now, I can totally understand that if someone mistakenly chose a name they didn't want to request a reset so they can choose another one that is available, but separating the surname from the legacy or removing the surnames altogether is stupid, and allowing someone else on the server to use the same legacy name is also stupid and demeaning to those that worked for and rightfully chose that name.

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Gilpatric
01.24.2012 , 09:56 PM | #656
What amazes me is that BWEA seems to have gone out of its way to make this suck. If you create a name and don't like it, normally the character is low level and you can just delete and reroll. With the legacy name, not only do you have to wait until lv 32, but the name is eternal, it poisons the entire server forever.

Why did they do this? There was a huge amount of discussion on the old forum about this. Nobody, and I mean nobody wanted anything like the current system. Many of us, as is well represented in this thread, merely wanted surnames.

This is a big enough deal to me that i've cancelled over it. It's my only real gripe but it's a deal breaker for me.

In reply to the poster immediately above, why not just seperate the Legacy System from the surname altogether? It is silly to have Republic and Empire characters with the same surname, and it is even sillier to have the different playable species supposedly part of the same 'family.'

I feel as if BW has shoved my head into the plate and is demanding that I eat my peas.

The whole point of surnames, it seems to me, is to allow greater flexibility, not less flexibility in naming.

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DarkCarnivale
01.25.2012 , 12:26 AM | #657
/signed


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Hatyara
01.25.2012 , 12:38 AM | #658
We should be able to change our legacy name, I put whatever I wanted in without knowing the repercussions of it all. The game did not explain properly what the legacy name would be used for when I was asked to enter in a legacy name.

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Drakonnen
01.25.2012 , 10:08 AM | #659
Quote: Originally Posted by ELECTRICJUDGMENT View Post
I for one think the legacy system is quite awesome, and I really hope they don't separate the legacy points from the surname because that would be undermining the whole purpose of the legacy system, which is for your character to have a legacy, similar to Anakin and Luke Skywalker or Leah and Jacen Solo. Now, I can totally understand that if someone mistakenly chose a name they didn't want to request a reset so they can choose another one that is available, but separating the surname from the legacy or removing the surnames altogether is stupid, and allowing someone else on the server to use the same legacy name is also stupid and demeaning to those that worked for and rightfully chose that name.
See you're describing a family tree of people, all of ONE race that occurred over a time period of at least half a century or more.

In this game, we are talking about 8 characters per server of potentially different races who could not procreate with one another, and all of whom are in adulthood AT THE EXACT SAME TIME.

That is NOT a family tree! It's so stupid and ridiculous, I almost just want to start cursing.

(and its LEIA by the way.)
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Graym_Inz-Tyr
01.25.2012 , 12:40 PM | #660
Quote: Originally Posted by Drakonnen View Post
See you're describing a family tree of people, all of ONE race that occurred over a time period of at least half a century or more.

In this game, we are talking about 8 characters per server of potentially different races who could not procreate with one another, and all of whom are in adulthood AT THE EXACT SAME TIME.

That is NOT a family tree! It's so stupid and ridiculous, I almost just want to start cursing.

(and its LEIA by the way.)
Indeed, not to mention that, as far as I recall, Leia never went by Skywalker anyway. It was Leia Organa or Leia Organa Solo. Not to mention Anakin Skywalker was called Darth Vader for much of his life. With the legacy system the way it is we can't even properly emulate the family the example they used to describe what the legacy system was for.

I would completely and totally fine with the legacy system if it wasn't linked to surnames. A unique legacy name is fine. It could even be a character's surname if you wanted, but there's no reason all my characters should be forced to either share the same surname or have none.

Assuming they disconnect surnames with legacy names I'd also prefer if surnames didn't have to be unique. A unique first name and legacy name is enough. Leave surname open to any choice you feel like (Barring appropriate restrictions to offensive ones)

I'm not even sure my chosen legacy name will work either. I want Inz-Tyr, like my username, but I've heard it will lowercase all but the first letter. Which - if true - is pretty annoying, considering it's standard practice with hyphenated surnames to have capital letters for each part.