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Premades.. Seriously?

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Premades.. Seriously?

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Vydor_HC
01.24.2012 , 06:23 PM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by Seriasx View Post
Again, I'm fine with losing or being demolished by a superior player who knows his class well and knows mine better than I do because when he stomps my face in I see what he did and I learn from it.

I'm not fine with being stomped by 8 people who blindly press 1-3 while riding each others coat-tails because I learn nothing from the encounter, I will leave this scenario more often then not and punishing me for doing so when those players should be in their own bracket being stomped by player A in his premade is a disgrace.

Its bad enough they enjoy the experience while being clueless to anything on their hotbar outside of the color of the icons or any idea of whats happening around them or god forbid a basic understanding of other classes.

Get your own queue and enjoy the learning experience imo.
Looks like we've come full circle here.

I can't wish you luck in trying to get the game changed, but I can salute you for a nice discussion. We can disagree on it and no harm done.

/salute.

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maradigamer
01.24.2012 , 06:23 PM | #122
Quote: Originally Posted by Vydor_HC View Post
Actually it does exist in todays game. It's just people do not want to do it, for those that do, they reap the rewards. The game is fine as it is, people need to get over this fear of losing. No need to change the game, make it harder on everyone, just to please people that cannot deal with losing %80-%90 of their matches.
Fixed your post to reflect the problem more accurately.

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Madcatyoji
01.24.2012 , 06:24 PM | #123
Quote: Originally Posted by Seriasx View Post
Of course you will enjoy it, its not like you can compete against other good players cause if you did then you wouldnt have to do that.
Iseewhatudidther

Actually, I seem to be a member of a dying breed. A dyed in the wool PK. I'm sure there are people who could beat me in a fair fight, but you won't ever get one out of me. I'll admit, I do *NOT* like to lose and I'll do just about anything to get an advantage.

That being said; I stomp plenty of people and have stomped plenty of people throughout my long MMO career who were considered absolutely top players. I compete juuuuuuuuuust fine!

If you don't believe me I play on The Bastion as Lok'looth and I'm waiting.
Lok'Looth Yojimbo - The Enforcer - Coon and Friends PVP Guild - The Bastion PVP Server

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Vydor_HC
01.24.2012 , 06:25 PM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by maradigamer View Post
Fixed your post to reflect the problem more accurately.
-shrugs-

Not my experience. Still irrelevant. there are things you can do to win more.

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Scoobings
01.24.2012 , 06:25 PM | #125
Quote: Originally Posted by Kelticfury View Post
Name 2. I dare you.
WoW, DCUO, Global Agenda. I threw the extra one in just for funsies. Most games that have match making put a priority system on pitting premades against each other.
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Seriasx
01.24.2012 , 06:28 PM | #126
Quote: Originally Posted by Vydor_HC View Post
Looks like we've come full circle here.

I can't wish you luck in trying to get the game changed, but I can salute you for a nice discussion. We can disagree on it and no harm done.

/salute.
agreed

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maradigamer
01.24.2012 , 06:30 PM | #127
Quote: Originally Posted by Vydor_HC View Post
-shrugs-

Not my experience. Still irrelevant. there are things you can do to win more.
I'm not going to argue whether or not there are things an individual can do to help their team win more because that wasn't my point. My point was that people aren't having an issue with losing, they're having an issue with losing the vast majority of the games they play. Do you see the difference?

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Zocat
01.24.2012 , 06:30 PM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by Daeth View Post
The smart thing to be asking for would be balanced expertise between the two teams, so experienced players are going against other experienced players where possible. Not trying to discourage teamwork. This is a MMO, you are expected to make friends and work as a team.
No, no this is bad as well. There could be a full battlemaster guy on my team running around somewhere else, and I would still be killed by the battlemaster guy on the opposing team.

There should be brackets for how many expertise you have. 0-50; 50-150; ...
So it always stays fair and no one kills my fresh lv 50 with his toon which has grinded solo WZs for 50 hours!
And everyone who's against my idea just wants ezpz mode and farm those new chars who have no fighting chance!! Their goal should be to play against other players with equal gear!

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Seriasx
01.24.2012 , 06:31 PM | #129
Quote: Originally Posted by Madcatyoji View Post
Iseewhatudidther

Actually, I seem to be a member of a dying breed. A dyed in the wool PK. I'm sure there are people who could beat me in a fair fight, but you won't ever get one out of me. I'll admit, I do *NOT* like to lose and I'll do just about anything to get an advantage.

That being said; I stomp plenty of people and have stomped plenty of people throughout my long MMO career who were considered absolutely top players. I compete juuuuuuuuuust fine!

If you don't believe me I play on The Bastion as Lok'looth and I'm waiting.
idc.

I've played in many pvp games with very good players and not a single one of them enjoys beating down a defenseless opponent, you know why?


Because good pvpers primary reason for playing pvp in the first place is for competitve gameplay.

All of them would be bored to tears or disguested with killing the same weak opponent over and over again, but hey you are the exception right?

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Tyrgrimx
01.24.2012 , 06:31 PM | #130
Easy solution join a premade or start one and lead it.