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Allow Ability To Change Our Advanced Class

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Allow Ability To Change Our Advanced Class

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Mormack
01.24.2012 , 06:20 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by FAURE View Post
cute hypothetical. unfortunately extreme circumstances don't really bolster an argument well.

and why would you have to carry two sets of armor? no one is going to make you respec. you act like you would suddenly be forced to flip flop your spec every other day. no one is holding a gun to your head
You apparently never played a Tank Class in WoW.

*Roll DK*

Can you tank?

No

nub.

or Friends get frustrated because they need you to tank but you don't have tank gear.

If you can fulfill the role, people will expect you to be able to. Its that simple.

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FAURE
01.24.2012 , 06:20 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by PjPablo View Post
Not against people having fun, but if you can make such drastic changes why have character archetypes at all. Just make it a free for all where everyone can fill all roles. I am a bit of an old-schooler on this one. Pick a character, stick with it. There should be some variability within the archetype, but if you are just going to allow people to switch to completely different types, then don't have classes at all.
its not like people are switching from jedi to commando. how does allowing people to switch their AC make it a free for all where everyone can fill in all roles? you're still only filling in one role at a time, with the ability to switch between 2 roles. its not like I'm going to switch my merc to a jedi.

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PjPablo
01.24.2012 , 06:21 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Soulkan View Post
No, because AC's are different classes. Bioware was stupid for using "Advanced Classes" as the tag for classes (read: people think they aren't due to how BW named them.).

If there were 8 classes to choose from at creation no one would be saying we should be able to switch afterwards.
This ^

I don;t think people look at AC as your 'class'. They look at it more like a spec.

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FAURE
01.24.2012 , 06:22 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Cordelia View Post
Name one other game where you just pay for a total class change? This game takes so many ideas from WoW and other MMO's where class is final. You need to stop thinking of AC as just another spec and think of it as a distinct class.
SWG.

did i mention how hilarious it is that you guys will ramble on and on about how tihs game isn't WoW, then turn around and say things like "hurr we shouldn't have AC changing because you can't do that in WoW."

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Bladeviperz
01.24.2012 , 06:22 PM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by FAURE View Post
why though? how does someone switching their AC affect you in any way shape or form? or are you just against people having fun?
i can effect others though. the time spent playing 10-50 is teaching people how to play the class and the ac they have picked. To change after so long it completely changes how that toon will play from then on. Then that person has to take the time re learning skills and abilities. This could work except what if that person goes into to a hm fp or an op with no clue how the new skills work it hurts everyone playing with that person. Also not every shares armor and weapons. Example: going from a guardian to a sentinel you lose the ability to wear heavy armor thus you no longer have any from of gear or a shadow to a sage you can not use your weapons anymore.

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Soulkan
01.24.2012 , 06:23 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by FAURE View Post
its not like people are switching from jedi to commando. how does allowing people to switch their AC make it a free for all where everyone can fill in all roles? you're still only filling in one role at a time, with the ability to switch between 2 roles. its not like I'm going to switch my merc to a jedi.
Switching from Sith Sorc to Sith Assassin is indeed like switching from Jedi to Commando. They are completely different in every way.

Advanced Classes are just classes. Bioware shouldn't have named them AC's.
Just say NO to....
(Arenas) (Cross-Server Anything) (MicroTransactions) (Switching Advanced Classes) (Flying Mounts)

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FAURE
01.24.2012 , 06:24 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Bladeviperz View Post
i can effect others though. the time spent playing 10-50 is teaching people how to play the class and the ac they have picked. To change after so long it completely changes how that toon will play from then on. Then that person has to take the time re learning skills and abilities. This could work except what if that person goes into to a hm fp or an op with no clue how the new skills work it hurts everyone playing with that person. Also not every shares armor and weapons. Example: going from a guardian to a sentinel you lose the ability to wear heavy armor thus you no longer have any from of gear or a shadow to a sage you can not use your weapons anymore.
and that is the price to pay for respecing. for the record, good players will be good players and bads will be bads no matter what class they are. and its not like the quests teach people how to play, last time I checked NPC's just stand there anyway, this isnt exactly a skill based game

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Mormack
01.24.2012 , 06:26 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by FAURE View Post
SWG.

did i mention how hilarious it is that you guys will ramble on and on about how tihs game isn't WoW, then turn around and say things like "hurr we shouldn't have AC changing because you can't do that in WoW."
it also isn't SWG and its much more closely related to WoW than SWG.

SWG also wasn't a level based system as someone mentioned.

AC = Class
Class = Archetype

You can't Change your AC because that would be like going from Warrior to Druid.

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Dracher
01.24.2012 , 06:26 PM | #69
It's how Bioware wants the game to be. You have to choose your advance class, and you can't change it once you choose.

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Cordelia
01.24.2012 , 06:27 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by FAURE View Post
SWG.

did i mention how hilarious it is that you guys will ramble on and on about how tihs game isn't WoW, then turn around and say things like "hurr we shouldn't have AC changing because you can't do that in WoW."
I would never say this game isn't WoW. It is quite obviously similar, as are many MMO's thesedays.

You mention SWG again, but as we all know that was a mighty failure post NGE, a lot of which was down to the dumbing down of the game. With people able to swap at will the economy became worthless as anyone could make anything just by switching their traders.

I'm not saying because you can't do it in WoW, you can't do it in any game. But AC is not like changing spec it is a total class change. Yet again I'll ask, Would you expect to change a Mage to a Druid?