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Premades.. Seriously?

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Premades.. Seriously?

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maradigamer
01.24.2012 , 06:11 PM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by Madcatyoji View Post
Some day a great game will come out that's similar to pre-tram Ultima and I will enjoy killing you all and taking every item you own and griefing your corpse.
I won't play a game that lets you take your anger issues out on me, sorry!

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Sakan
01.24.2012 , 06:12 PM | #112
Where are all these premades u guys r talking about? All i see on my server is huttball matches full of mofos playing epic lighting based 1vs1 duels

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Astarica
01.24.2012 , 06:12 PM | #113
The only place where premades might have an edge on non premades is on Alderran, if the premades went with the abandon middile plan, and absolutely no one on the opposing side has ever seen it before, it could be an instant GG.

Of course, if anyone on the other side has seen it before and took the initiative to counter it (swarm your closer turret immediately), this generally results in an instant loss for the premades assuming they're not so strong to just deathmatch their way to victory since if the side using that strat fail to get both side turrets, they're essentially playing the game with a 100 point handicap.

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Seriasx
01.24.2012 , 06:14 PM | #114
Quote: Originally Posted by Vydor_HC View Post
People can form groups instead of pugging. It's very easy to chat up the people that PvP in your games and see if they want to form a set group. Comm programs are dime a dozen and free, no reason not to have one.

These games used to be about socializing and forming groups to tackle something you can't do on your own. There is no need to change the game to make queue times longer for everyone just because playing solo causes you to lose to people that are playing the way the game was designed.
Yes, they were and I was there on a call list for avatars, it was a great time when reputation mattered, being well known as a cheater, bad player or theif assured you a life of rerolling or playing by yourself.

fast forward to today and this doesnt exist anymore, instead of challenging content with interesting encounters we have a story/movie/free loot game where everyone gets a taste of everything.

I'm not interested in finding a few people on my server who actually care about hwo they are perceived in a game as I once was and due to the majority also not giving a **** about it then times have changed.

If you want to premake wz's then more power to you, but you should be facing others who premake too, I can only assume you premake to play with likeminded players who are searching for a challenge.

You wont find it against a pug and if you do then god help you guys cause you will get roflstomped by any serious premade, but then will how to play your class and gain some insight on the other classes as well because you will have to.

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Vydor_HC
01.24.2012 , 06:14 PM | #115
Quote: Originally Posted by Yadad View Post
Wrong it's not about socializing it's more challenging to play against human players then computer controlled.

And you take for granted people have the time to form groups, I don't unless it's the weekend so I pug mostly during the weekdays since I'm on and off so much with my family.

Not to mention all you premade defenders are just *********** idiots trying to defend your fail skills at pvp. Here's the big kicker a premade usually balances the group for stacking buffs and synergy between the classes where a pug premade is going to be a lot harder to do not to mention when you play with the same people for months/years you know what they are going to do and how they are going to do it so you can maximize your positioning and next moves.

So quit trying to defend not making a premade only bracket.
Name calling is unnecessary, it should be beneath you.

But I pug all day long, unless I want to get serious, then I form groups. It's more about playing the game as it is designed, for a group and do your best...don't get discouraged when you lose. And don't ask the developers to change the game to make it longer for everyone to get into warzones. Losing is not that big of a deal, take the loses with the wins and have fun. If you can't have fun even if you lose, it's your problem, not the games.

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Seriasx
01.24.2012 , 06:14 PM | #116
Quote: Originally Posted by Madcatyoji View Post
Some day a great game will come out that's similar to pre-tram Ultima and I will enjoy killing you all and taking every item you own and griefing your corpse.
Of course you will enjoy it, its not like you can compete against other good players cause if you did then you wouldnt have to do that.

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Hydrott
01.24.2012 , 06:15 PM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by Tristita View Post
Agreed. Punish players for having/making friends!
Any form of social interaction should be prohibited and terminated on sight!!!!

But really, how could anyone take this kind of demand seriously?
Play life and live games.

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Kelticfury
01.24.2012 , 06:16 PM | #118
Quote: Originally Posted by Scoobings View Post
Actually in most MMOs that I've played they ARE matched against each other.
Name 2. I dare you.

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Vydor_HC
01.24.2012 , 06:17 PM | #119
Quote: Originally Posted by Seriasx View Post
Yes, they were and I was there on a call list for avatars, it was a great time when reputation mattered, being well known as a cheater, bad player or theif assured you a life of rerolling or playing by yourself.

fast forward to today and this doesnt exist anymore, instead of challenging content with interesting encounters we have a story/movie/free loot game where everyone gets a taste of everything.

I'm not interested in finding a few people on my server who actually care about hwo they are perceived in a game as I once was and due to the majority also not giving a **** about it then times have changed.

If you want to premake wz's then more power to you, but you should be facing others who premake too, I can only assume you premake to play with likeminded players who are searching for a challenge.

You wont find it against a pug and if you do then god help you guys cause you will get roflstomped by any serious premade, but then will how to play your class and gain some insight on the other classes as well because you will have to.
Actually it does exist in todays game. It's just people do not want to do it, for those that do, they reap the rewards. The game is fine as it is, people need to get over this fear of losing. No need to change the game, make it harder on everyone, just to please people that cannot deal with losing.

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Seriasx
01.24.2012 , 06:20 PM | #120
Quote: Originally Posted by Vydor_HC View Post
Actually it does exist in todays game. It's just people do not want to do it, for those that do, they reap the rewards. The game is fine as it is, people need to get over this fear of losing. No need to change the game, make it harder on everyone, just to please people that cannot deal with losing.
Again, I'm fine with losing or being demolished by a superior player who knows his class well and knows mine better than I do because when he stomps my face in I see what he did and I learn from it.

I'm not fine with being stomped by 8 people who blindly press 1-3 while riding each others coat-tails because I learn nothing from the encounter, I will leave this scenario more often then not and punishing me for doing so when those players should be in their own bracket being stomped by player A in his premade is a disgrace.

Its bad enough they enjoy the experience while being clueless to anything on their hotbar outside of the color of the icons or any idea of whats happening around them or god forbid a basic understanding of other classes.

Get your own queue and enjoy the learning experience imo.