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Skillzdatkill

01.24.2012 , 05:36 PM \| #21	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by gotem First off let me state that I'm a huge fan of daoc and played it for years. To call WoW a failure is just plain stupid. My favorite part is the people like you who call is the worse MMO in history probably played it for years before quitting. WoW changed MMO's for the better despite what 99% of the people on these forums say otherwise. I stopped playing wow because of how easy it has become but it isn't the worst mmorpg in history. To say that has to be the dumbest thing you can do. It holds the record of being the best and it has the players to prove it. Since there was wow everyone has been trying to copy it and there are games which have been very successful because it was a clone such as Rift. Wow was fine until WOTLK but after that it was just simple as hell. The pvp from day one was fine and I have no idea what has you so pissed off about it. Did you really play vanilla wow or are you just going off things you've heard from people who claim to have played vanilla?

JPureBalance

01.24.2012 , 05:38 PM \| #22	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Vampirius I did not read the OP, but I did read the subject line and I agree with the sentiment. Introduce separatists as a third faction FTW! It would be the trade federation if anything.

Yadad

01.24.2012 , 05:38 PM \| #23	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Fearo Yes it's another post from yet another outraged player, QUIT building on to the worst failure that ever was an mmorpg, when will you learn to LISTEN to what the better players are saying rather than to listen to the worst players?!, Fact 1: WOW PvP Sucked from day 1 till now.... it was a mass grind fight with no organisation, you qued with random crap players and it featured the same battlegrounds over and over again... IT WASNT FUN IT WASNT CHALLENGING, yet you are copying this?!? The worst parts of WoW is what you decided to copy?. You want to catch peoples eyes? then create something new!? don't copy what was horrible from another game? Fact 2: DAoC was freaking great and has been deemed by the pvp society online as the best pvp game of ALL Times yet you dont cooporate with your OWN collegaues at Mythic who has infinitely more experience creating MMORPG games? That's silly learn from their mistakes by and learn from the things they created that was awesome.....pvp objective based war areas such as the frontiers, and create PERMANENT battlegrounds for the level brackets to enjoy. The Warning: DO NOT Get complacent by thinking we're playing this game because it has more to offer than WoW because quite frankly it's the same and WoW is more populated people might aswell return under these circumstances, so dont rest your feet till you're done walking, you have the game you have the technology you have the brains to figure out what the eliteists are saying may hold some truths to it , now ACT accordingly and fix it please =) FACT 1 is WRONG get over yourself, WOW PVP when it first came out was awesome fun, on par with UO. Anyone who played when WOW first came out and didn't enjoy the MC fights at the mountain or TM/SS is someone who doesn't like PVP or just sucks at it. The rest of your points I didn't bother to read since you discredited yourself after your first failed fact.
I'm sleeping at a La Quinta Inn so I'm fully rested to kickbutt and take names at launch.

Komplete

01.24.2012 , 05:39 PM \| #24	Quote
DAOC is still a very great game, I dropped my sub there to play this game. Am I unhappy with this game? No im not. Can it be much better? Yes if given the time and input for the devs to do thier jobs. My friend and I actually talked about how they could incorperate things to make it better since its all about gear ATM. Take Expertise out of the gear and make all gear obtainable with mod slots. Buff crafters items up so they can be placed on gear to improve and play as you wish. Valor levels should be used as a rank system each level of valor should give a point to put in a seperate tree or system to give you better abilities... more str or int or aim what have you and rank 1 be 1% that costs 1 point or 1 level of valor... rank 2 would be 3% and cost 2 more ranks and so on however they planned then each AC would have a class specific ability once they hit say valor rank 35ish to help them in PVP. Also have things like a type of Ignore Pain that hase a 5-10-15min cooldown that gives 25-50-75% health they could copy alot from DAOC and place it in this game. As for the warzones, planets with brackets of strictly pvp would be sweet, Ilum in a way but not quite... control points and player bases yes but put some sort of incentive to play there Sorry just my 2 cents and sorry for the WALL... Loving this game ATM but can see so much potential ill stick it out.

Bovinity

01.24.2012 , 05:42 PM \| #25	Quote
Quote: Anyone who played when WOW first came out and didn't enjoy the MC fights at the mountain or TM/SS is someone who doesn't like PVP or just sucks at it. Ok, lets be honest here, nostalgia might suggest otherwise, but there really wasn't anything fun about the Southshore Shuffle. Just shuffling back and forth between the towns with no resolution or point because both factions graveyards were right there anyway.

Almghty_gir

01.24.2012 , 06:30 PM \| #26	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by gotem First off let me state that I'm a huge fan of daoc and played it for years. To call WoW a failure is just plain stupid. My favorite part is the people like you who call is the worse MMO in history probably played it for years before quitting. WoW changed MMO's for the better despite what 99% of the people on these forums say otherwise. slightly off topic. i actually think WoW has done more to harm the mmo genre than any other game in history. and when project titan launches, i think that too, will fail. the reason why? because it's not WoW... what people need to realise is that WoW didn't start out with all of the subscribers it has now, it didn't start out with the huge following, it didn't start out amazing and shiny. it started out as a grind fest, everything was difficult to get and to achieve, but players stuck with it because that was acceptable then. and the game has grown, and changed, addapted, become what it is today... sure people knock it but it IS the most successful MMO in history, without a doubt. but that's where the problem lies. every new mmo, EVERY new mmo, like it or not, will be compared in one way shape or form for that very reason. that will include titan. when it launches, people will race through the content, be bored of the end game, be bored of x/y/z, tell blizard they did a/b/c wrong this time round, just because it's "not like WoW". and even if it was "just like WoW", the complaint would then be "it's too much like WoW". that's why world of warcraft has hurt the industry, it's set a standard so impossible that it can never be reached in either end of the spectrum.
Bruglir Fellblade - Dark Jedi. Guild leader - Vulgar Display of Power Tomb of Freedon Nadd

Gorto

01.24.2012 , 06:33 PM \| #27	Quote
Do you know what a DaoC player is? An Everquest player who thinks he is a pvper. DAOC is a piece of **** and anyone who thinks different feel free to go to http://darkageofcamelot.com/ and play your precious DaoC. DAOC SUCKS

Almghty_gir

01.24.2012 , 06:33 PM \| #28	Quote
that aside, for pvp discussion... DAOC > WAR > WoW > This.
Bruglir Fellblade - Dark Jedi. Guild leader - Vulgar Display of Power Tomb of Freedon Nadd

DarthNemis

01.24.2012 , 06:35 PM \| #29	Quote
If Swtor copied the DAoC format it would truely become the best mmorpg of all time in my opinion.

Kryp-Tyk

01.24.2012 , 06:47 PM \| #30	Quote
Screw frontiers, just give us true open world PVP on the PVP servers! Real PVP is being able to loot people's gear and disrupt their leveling areas, dungeons, hell even disrupt their ability to shop! Without this PVP is absolutely pointless. Solution 1: Open it up so that we can travel to all planets and zones for both factions and open up the ability to loot peoples gear (even bound stuff) Solution 2: Make NON-instanced raid zones and dungeons that are contestable...allowing players to actually fight over ownership (not that useless ilum crap) Solution 3: Same faction PVP...open it up so I can kill fellow repubs...particularly the chest camping bots Screw DAOC, the best PVP was old school EQ1 and AC1 (talking directly after release) where dying had severe penalties and players actually had an impact on each other, not this carebear co-op stuff with a chatroom These changes would allow players to shape the world and keep things interesting. As it stands now there isn't anything to do once you hit 50 but repeat the same recycled material over and over again

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