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Gunslinger is to weak compared to other classes

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Gunslinger is to weak compared to other classes

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Maniigoldo
01.24.2012 , 04:31 PM | #381
Quote: Originally Posted by memoriesofprey View Post
You're better off than dps Jedi Knights/Sith Warriors.
nice funny post.....sentinels/marauders OWNS...they are far superiors than snipers/guns
my sentinel eat for breakfast snipers/guns and always top 3 dmg dealers...when i was playing with my 50 sniper i couldnt do nothing especialy vs shadow/sins operatives/scounds

Not to mention if a sentinel/marauder have a good healer with them they cant be stoped

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Maniigoldo
01.24.2012 , 04:36 PM | #382
Quote: Originally Posted by Gidoru View Post
Umm Bounty Hunter is more than fine right now. Say otherwise and you dont know what you're talking about.

And im simply stating facts here.

BH has a knockback, does not require cover, superior to Sniper
BH has a stun, has range on it, Sniper's is melee range, Superior to sniper
BH has cast time damage abilities, deal more or equal amounts of damage to similar cast time abilites of snipers, does not require cover, again Superior to Sniper
BH has high damage mitigation, Sniper has the low damage mitigation.
BH can have heals/dispels, Sniper can have.. cover?

I guess BH have it rough eh?
u forgot the tracer i win button spam

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Kuari
01.24.2012 , 04:57 PM | #383
No one bursts like an engineer specced sniper or the gunslinger version. Sure you aren't topping damage charts, but your targets die... I don't care if they are tank, sorc, or what they are, as long as you don't panic, use your entrench properly, pop ballistic shield when you're in the middle of the combat zone, etc, you're going to do a lot. The PROBLEM is, a lot of what they bring to the group isn't shown on the scoreboard, so that gives the impression that they are worse then what they really are.
Standards are made to be broken.
- Crie - 50 Sniper - Engineer spec -
- Kuari - 35 Assassin - Tank spec -

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smulx
01.24.2012 , 05:15 PM | #384
Quote: Originally Posted by Kuari View Post
No one bursts like an engineer specced sniper
lolwut?

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Spaceplank
01.24.2012 , 05:30 PM | #385
I have a 50 Mercenary, 49 Juggernaut and a 35 gunslinger.

My mercenary is good, BUT BORING AS HELL.

My juggernaut is FUN, but I played this game for a ranged class.

My Gunslinger Bursts, and as sabotuer, has mobility, BUT COVER (an essential mechanic of our class) DOESNT WORK IN WZ's.

mine and many other players gripes about gunslingers are their inability to utilize their skills due to the horrendous server delay. Fix the Server delay, you will be able to use cover WHEN you want, more easily KITE players, and be just generally more effective with the class and people will be considerably happier with them.
We will be IN the spearhead of pvp in the server!

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Kuari
01.24.2012 , 05:51 PM | #386
Quote: Originally Posted by smulx View Post
lolwut?
People ***** about sorcs, and yet I kill them and kill them fast, bubble or no bubble. The only competition was ops/scoundrels, and while they still may be under them in that department, engineer specced snipers have a longer more sustained burst that can kill even if they are spamming heals or bubbling. The only thing that saves people from a good engineer spec is LoS.

Quite frankly though, ANYONE who says cover does not work well in PvP needs to play a different class. You absolutely can't panic and run as a cover class like the majority do... actually, that applies to any class really, most common way to end up slaughtered in warzones really is being afraid of getting into the middle of things.
Standards are made to be broken.
- Crie - 50 Sniper - Engineer spec -
- Kuari - 35 Assassin - Tank spec -

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Gaidax
01.24.2012 , 06:26 PM | #387
Quote: Originally Posted by Desgarden View Post
Ok, ignorance is bliss but this is usually the case with people who need to come up with "l2p" followed by how l33t they are.

Too bad that you do not get anything when it comes to game mechanics else you wouldn't write that stuff.

The restrictions are still there: the damage mitigation and the target restriction, the piss-poor synergy of the trees, the restriction with which our cc comes, and also the restriction based on us by the energy regeneration rate.
So I show you a completely random screenshot I took several minutes ago at a time of posting and you just go "omghhh... but the restrictions, but the damage mitigation... omg no synergy... qq"

Bottom line - I claim that Snipers are just fine and that's it. If you have no idea how to bypass said "restrictions" while utilizing our very unique strengths like ranged burst, CC immunity, and excellent array of CC we have, then it's your problem.

You can continue your clown parade as long as you like, heck if you manage to get me buffed, then it will be just sweet. I just find all the claims that Snipers do crap damage laughable at best and the most amusing part is that it is a leading claim in this thread, despite it being a total and complete BS.
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TheRealBrave
01.24.2012 , 06:28 PM | #388
Snipers do bad damage? Yeah, if a bad player is playing one.

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Vyndeta
01.24.2012 , 07:03 PM | #389
Even though we don't need a buff, i'm going to have to agree with the op just becasue i'm a gunslinger.

We can't top damage, die in 2 hits, can't do anything in groups or 1v1s, people los me like *** im suppose to hit u through the wall!

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DestyOwn
01.24.2012 , 08:14 PM | #390
Nah they have to do something, ALL Our damage except Explosion Probe is Range Attack.

Don't Count lethality because its all dots, and if you play in game where people know what they are doing they dispell everything.

So marksman is the only options for "assured" damage.

and it's all range ???

BH is all TECH
Sorc is all FORCE

They do more damage to tanks, they do more damage to everybody because only the armor mitigates their damage. thats it.

well snipers every thing in this gosh darn game mitigate our damage.

Ya right a bubble only absorbs 3k damage.

I snipe crit on him 2.5k + Follow thru an another 2.5k and now the bubble goes down but he takes no damage.

Guess what. i leg shot him, ambush explosion probe. he loses what 1/3 of his health.i use flashbang, he uses force speed escape and i cant catch him .... rofl

this is the encounter for sorcs.

Well tanks, i just do 0damage to them, because guess what, they dodge absorb everything.

BH's? If i win a fight against them, they LOS then heal then stun then heal , then they are full heallth and i am half health.

Don't you guys notice that there is thread about almost every class out there saying this class is OP blablabla.

Well gues what there is no SNIPER IS OP thread. because you know what? it's more the opposite , we have no survivability, no heals,****** armor, no force speed/stealth, COVER Gives NO BONUS except against snipers? ROFL.

Against an equally geared player, you are gonna do what 3-5k damage with snipe-ambush-followthru... which is what 3 tracer missiles? if they dont crit.