Premades.. Seriously?

I blame bad mmo design. Honestly if your going to steal a mode from FPS shooter games and put an mmo stamp on it at least do it right.

Warzones are nothing more then objective based call of duty match types you would find in any shooter title.

Problem is its lacking very badly. There are no rankings or ladders or private matches ect....


They need to have a way to setup private matches so we can have guild matches and maybe a guild ranking ladder ect and make warzones fun. Then pre-mades would have a reason and a way to fight other pre-mades but as it stands now there is no way to do so.

Maybe remove valor and coms from the private matches to cheesing or cheating but there needs to be a system in place to challenge others to warzones or something.

Ignorant response, what if you want to play premade but only vs other premades, what if you actually prefer playing on equal footing than vs random pugs!

Also there are times I want to tryhard and others I want to play more laid back, there is no reason not to have options for both modes!

I wouldn't consider roflstomping anyone a "good match" honestly that kind of game is just boring.

Well to be fair they may eventually do something like this. However, if they allow premades into both queues, the garbage premades who can't beat the other premades and can't be arsed to learn how to pvp well will just continue to harass pugs.

Why would it be a punishment for the queue to favor matching premade vs. premade?

I'm not saying it SHOULD right now, just wondering why it would be a "punishment"? I suppose it could result in longer queues, but they could just make it a very loose matching so that it only favors premade vs. premade if one is already in the queue or something.

Quick answer: queue times.

I agree with this. And on the flipside, it allows casual players that just want to solo queue for a few fun games to do so against a team they actually have a chance of beating. Sure some pugs are better than others, but when the opposite team is really working together well, is in vent, is focus targeting, knows each other, etc. it's hard to beat them with a pug, if not impossible. There's no reason why people can't solo queue for some random PvP fun, it should be encouraged. They don't all want to get hardcore about it and find a static group to queue with - for a lot of casual players, that would be a turn off. Let the premade's fight against each other and the pugs fight each other. Both are happy. If anyone who runs in groups of three or more thinks that's a bad idea then they are just admitting that they'd rather roll pugs all day than really PvP.

Correct. There is no way they can implement a separation without doing cross server warzones first. I hate fighting premades with a frothing at the mouth, loathy passion, and even I don't want a separation without cross server first.

Its not a punishment, its a reward.

You get to play against other premades to test your skills, heck you might actually have to do something crazy like learn your class or god forbid other classes abilities as well.

This would hurt the low population servers even more so than now.

Really?

I use the term when people are in the same guild and always out number you at choke points because of vent communication.