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Armethious

01.24.2012 , 02:45 PM \| #1011
Quote: Originally Posted by BDutch I want whatever system gets as many people into PvP as possible. The only problem in an MMO I can't work around is lack of players, so my primary concern is what brings in new players and what drives them off. Bingo! That is the correct attitude to have. The vast majority of players are PvE type players. I feel that statement is supportable since there are nearly twice as many PvE servers are there are PvP servers. Good or bad, PvE players have been trained to do content for rewards, if there are no tangible rewards, the likelihood of them getting involved is lower. Which means a gear progression based system of some kind.

LanceUpercutt

01.24.2012 , 02:46 PM \| #1012
Quote: Originally Posted by Welve the fact that gear is more determinent of a fight than skill is unbalanced. if someone is better than you at their class, you shouldn't win because you are wearing a better skirt...it is stupid its been that way in almost every mmo i have played, except dcuo

KOTOR-LOVER

01.24.2012 , 02:46 PM \| #1013
Quote: Originally Posted by Junebugs Its called progression in PvE you hit the boss for 5k and the new guy hit him for 3k so lets remove strength/aim/cunning/willpower Are we talking about PvE? no? we are talking about PvP. When did anyone say PvE? Never, just you.
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rexryan

01.24.2012 , 02:49 PM \| #1014
without a resilience type stat raiders would come into warzones and destroy everything around them.

Welve

01.24.2012 , 02:49 PM \| #1015
Quote: Originally Posted by Junebugs So saying get rid of it entirely is dumb the REAL problem is it does too much Remove the increase healing Remove increase damage So we are left with just a damage reduce that way people arent 2 shotting low geared people or scale it back a lot, even just the damage reduction isn't the best, then you have people that just stay alive forever and ever and people who are left just running to a slightly slower, but just as inevitable death like I said, cap it out at 5-10% MAX, perferably like 7% (5% cent, 6% champ, 7% BM), enhance the availability of decent gear after 50...that you transition from level 40ish greens and blues to level 50 epic gear is also a problem.

Junebugs

01.24.2012 , 02:50 PM \| #1016
Quote: Originally Posted by KOTOR-LOVER Are we talking about PvE? no? we are talking about PvP. When did anyone say PvE? Never, just you. It still applies in PvE if you are geared you will be stronger than someone who just hit 50 so really you just dont know how to respond to that

LanceUpercutt

01.24.2012 , 02:50 PM \| #1017
Quote: Originally Posted by rexryan without a resilience type stat raiders would come into warzones and destroy everything around them. only if pvp gave inferior gear, i think most people are assuming pvp and pve would give identical gear

Dogfatherxx

01.24.2012 , 02:50 PM \| #1018
Well, if the intention is to have as many people PVP as possible, the current system will not succeed. Eventually, this PVP system will morph into one that is just as bad as Rift. I am not sure how the rated WZs will work, but they might help to balance the playing field whenever they come out. Until then, players will just have to live with a second-rate system that encourages time over skill. Nothing new for an MMO, but disappointing still.

Junebugs

01.24.2012 , 02:52 PM \| #1019
Quote: Originally Posted by rexryan without a resilience type stat raiders would come into warzones and destroy everything around them. They are saying that they want PvE and PvP gear to be identical

KOTOR-LOVER

01.24.2012 , 02:52 PM \| #1020
Quote: Originally Posted by Junebugs so really you just dont know how to respond to that I obviously agree with that? PvE should be a completely different story. That's one aspect of MMO's that I think SHOULD be based on progression. However, PvP should be based on skill........... Read what I'm saying.
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