Tracer missle is balanced. Also other things ppl need to stop crying about! Read!

Its gotta suck playing a class where all you have to do is mash one ablility over and over again to be decent.

My primary character is a level 50 sniper. It's my own fault if I let a commando spam nothing but grav round at me. Most classes have an interrupt or something that will at least temporarily intterupt a target. Unless one is fighting in an open field, one can also LoS the commando (and my sniper) to great affect.

Likely the commando is going to put additional talents points in grav round so you get two stacks of grav vortex (think that's the name) per shot and gain a buff that reduces the damage done to the commando. 3 consective attacks then guarentees you have a full armor debuff. High impact projetile (think it's their version of the BH rail shot) benefits greatly from grav shot as does full auto. I think it takes 5 grav rounds to get the max damage reduction buff to the trooper (but i'm not sure).

It's Biowares fault they made one ability that meshes well with many other ones. If one is dieing to a spam of 3-5 grav rounds/tracer missiles, one should rethink what one is doing and how to improve one's self (interrupts, LoS, cooldowns, etc.). I do question the necessity of the passive 35% armor reduction the two classes have, though, that combines with the grav round armor reduction but that's just me...as I would love that.

Well it's far from the first MMO to design a turret based nuke spec that has only a few damage abilities that hit really hard.

Honestly, personally, I see no reason Gunnery needs the reduction in KB CD, extra distance on KB, and a KB added to stockstrike. When I look at gunnery those things stand out to me as OP more than the turret and burst style Gunnery has.

If I felt like dragging up the thread I did this post comparison of the two specs and how some things should be moved around in both specs to make them both more balanced.

But basically if you look at "Curtain of Fire" at the top end of Gunnery, it procs off charged bolts also. Why you have to ask? From what people tell you grav round is supposed to replace charged bolts. I think this isn't true. I think they designed the spec for charged bolts to be used after the debuff is up.

So the problem is that charged bolts is still never used. If they changed the debuff to also add a +x% stacking debuff to the target that makes your charged bolts hit harder....that would likely be how the spec was originally INTENDED to play but the numbers didn't get worked right.

One of other issues is that grav round ignores tank shields, charged bolts don't. So even if the spec was designed correctly the spec would become useless against tanks. I've tried out using charged bolts at full debuff. It's never worth it. That's what needs to be changed.

But at the end of the day if a turret spec with zero mobility and only a weak defensive CD as it's "defense" against raw damage.....the rotation has to be somewhat simplistic because you don't get a lot of time to burst into someone with chain casting before you get CC/interupted/LOS'ed.

If a turret spec doesn't hurt a LOT in short windows, it's pointless.

Commando/Merc Argument "Dude it's not imbalanced, just interupt us we will die, you bad, our other abilites do more damage"

So based on that theory....

Can us Guardians/Juggers get our cooldown taken off of sunder armor and the damage increased so it's as strong as overhead slash?

That way it isn't as "powerful" as bladestorm but hey it's balanced now we have a spammable, armor shreading "bread and butter" damage output on par with Mercs/Commandos.

Oh....I didn't think you would go for that.