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Unsuscribe already ? Top 2 things that would had made you stay

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Unsuscribe already ? Top 2 things that would had made you stay

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bmwfive
01.24.2012 , 06:34 AM | #111
Pardon me for putting it this way, but if you're gone, then why are you still here?

All these things are already noted and they will be fixed.

List of things that make me stay is a long one.
If I would have to choose two, I would go with:

1. I got NONE of big issues that will seriously bother me (like low graphic/performance, bugs, low popularity, no warzones, no people, boring content etc)

2. I'm having fun

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Tetsuigardm
01.24.2012 , 06:35 AM | #112
Not having threads locked simply because it was bad PR,

Color crystals are far too few

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Marshal_Ney
01.24.2012 , 06:37 AM | #113
Here are my two cents,the game so far is really enjoyable,i`m not a PvP fan,so for me so far it`s great,even if i do understand people complaining about it.
the two features i love most about this game are the intriguing story behind each class and how awesome are the group missions.
i subscribed for six months because i think this game have great potential.
updates and new expansions will be there in the future.
what i would like to see are for example the possibility to own a house or a place,where we can decorate with trophies or items that we collected in the quests or flash points,like SWG had.
also it would be great if they could give us a way to recolour the armors.
but in the end for a game that came out less than two months ago i am satisfied,at the same time Bioware should give us more contents,especially for people who reached level 50.
I'm not a prophet or a stone age man,Just a mortal
with the potential of a superman,I'm living on"

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Urko
01.24.2012 , 06:38 AM | #114
Quote: Originally Posted by Draczeq View Post
I didnt unsubcribe but,

1. F/F romance option
2. Dual spec
A lot more pressing issues to have sorted ingame than point 1 youve brought up
Well done Patch 1.2, lots of additions that i was looking for.

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Meldwyn
01.24.2012 , 06:41 AM | #115
1. Laaaaaag!
2. MMO burnout. Might be sick of the genre, tbh.

I upgraded my graphics card to a geForce GTX560ti with 700W power supply, and while its better, its still jerky on the fleet. Totally unacceptable, imo.

I have three months left on my subscription, but I think that will be it for me after that.

The story is great, love that... but the MMO part doesn't work for me.
My epiphany about End Game in SWTOR!

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gaalon
01.24.2012 , 06:42 AM | #116
I've unsubbed and have a few weeks of game time remaining. After that I might return in a year when the game becomes F2P (or if BW manage to make the game worth p(l)aying sometime in the distant future but I'm very unsure if this will ever be the case - they clearly have no idea what a modern MMO has to look like and what kind of features are considered "standard" by experienced MMO players so a lot would have to change within BW for that to ever happen).

I'm currently very unsure if there are any 2 things that BW could change that would make me consider resubbing... Probably the list would have to include at least 10 things before I'd resub.

If I have to choose 2 things then I'd probably say:

1.) Either give us addons or at the very least give us a high-quality customizable UI that was created by professional UI designers and not utter quacks. The UI is the element I'm forced to interact with the most during my game time - it boggles my mind how any half-competent game development company could release a game with such a terrible UI when you can basically just copy/paste WOW (as was done with 90% of the rest of the game) or even simply visit curse.com and download the top 10 addons and copy/paste them. It's not like BW had to do any kind of design work themselves - they just had to copy/paste existing games as they did with talent system, classes, skills and general game mechanics. Any amount of voice-over dialogues and stories will not make this problem go away or make it easier for me to ignore the dismal design decisions that BW made.

2.) Give us all the "comfort" features that WOW has such as LFD, guild bank, an AH that deserves the name... all those little things that make playing WOW a charm (at least from a technical point of view) and playing SWTOR a huge pain in the rear end. I'm not saying WOW is great (especially the content and game design direction of WOW is bad) but from a technical, UI and comfort point of view WOW really does many things very good.

Bug fixes etc. are obviously important but bugs won't make me quit. Bugs are mistakes that a human made during development - and I can deal with mistakes. What really makes me want to quit are all the terribad things that BW did on purpose because they thought it was a good idea.

Bugs don't destroy my trust in the competence of the game design crew... Dismal design choices on the other hand do destroy (what little) trust (I had) because they were made consciously.

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Urko
01.24.2012 , 06:44 AM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by Meldwyn View Post
1. Laaaaaag!
2. MMO burnout. Might be sick of the genre, tbh.

I upgraded my graphics card to a geForce GTX560ti with 700W power supply, and while its better, its still jerky on the fleet. Totally unacceptable, imo.

I have three months left on my subscription, but I think that will be it for me after that.

The story is great, love that... but the MMO part doesn't work for me.
Whats your CPU/RAM, is your IP up to par ?
Well done Patch 1.2, lots of additions that i was looking for.

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Urko
01.24.2012 , 06:45 AM | #118
Quote: Originally Posted by gaalon View Post
I've unsubbed and have a few weeks of game time remaining. After that I might return in a year when the game becomes F2P (or if BW manage to make the game worth p(l)aying sometime in the distant future but I'm very unsure if this will ever be the case - they clearly have no idea what a modern MMO has to look like and what kind of features are considered "standard" by experienced MMO players so a lot would have to change within BW for that to ever happen).

I'm currently very unsure if there are any 2 things that BW could change that would make me consider resubbing... Probably the list would have to include at least 10 things before I'd resub.

If I have to choose 2 things then I'd probably say:

1.) Either give us addons or at the very least give us a high-quality customizable UI that was created by professional UI designers and not utter quacks (as was clearly the case up to now). The UI is the element I'm forced to interact with the most during my game time - it boggles my mind how any half-competent game development company could release a game with such a terrible UI when you can basically just copy/paste WOW (as was done with 90% of the rest of the game) or even simply visit curse.com and download the top 10 addons and copy/paste them. It's not like BW had to do any kind of design work themselves - they just had to copy/paste existing games as they did with talent system, classes, skills and general game mechanics. Any amount of voice-over dialogues and stories will not make this problem go away or make it easier for me to ignore the dismal design decisions that BW made.

2.) Give us all the "comfort" features that WOW has such as LFD, guild bank, an AH that deserves the name... all those little things that make playing WOW a charm (at least from a technical point of view) and playing SWTOR a huge pain in the rear end. I'm not saying WOW is great (especially the content and game design direction of WOW is bad) but from a technical, UI and comfort point of view WOW really does many things very good.

Bug fixes etc. are obviously important but bugs won't make me quit. Bugs are mistakes that a human made during development - and I can deal with mistakes. What really makes me want to quit are all the terribad things that BW did on purpose because they thought it was a good idea.

Bugs don't destroy my trust in the competence of the game design crew... Dismal design choices do destroy (what little) trust (I had).
Far better imo the UI than Lotros was/is.

Point 2 of yours:- You hit the nail on the head, WoW from technical point of view yep possibly but the game has virtually no play appeal in comparison to this for me after 6 years of it.

Yes a lot of the above SHOULD have been in at release and i believe the publisher rushed Bioware for the Christmas release, however they are showing fast with the updates and fixes that have been done (or are in the process) , within a couple of months i think this will be on track big time.

I STILL want (at least close range) HIGH REZ textures though.
Well done Patch 1.2, lots of additions that i was looking for.

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Meldwyn
01.24.2012 , 06:51 AM | #119
Quote: Originally Posted by Urko View Post
Whats your CPU/RAM, is your IP up to par ?
Not real computer savvy here, but I have a Win7 64bit, 4gb Ram, with a quad-core processor (can't remember what it is off the top of my head - at work).

but, this is a problem for several people I know. I have turned off AA, and set everything, and I mean everything, back to low or off, with a top notch graphics card, and still jerky... I am sure its on my end in some way... but I shouldn't have to be an IT professional to play a game that wants to appeal to masses....

sigh...
My epiphany about End Game in SWTOR!

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xguild
01.24.2012 , 06:52 AM | #120
Im not sure exactly what aspect of the game didn't appeal to me in the long term, but Im with the poster, the first month was great, I really liked it. I wasn't bothered by the bugs, nore did I think the game was too easy or anything. If you put a gun to may head and force an answer I would probobly simply say that the game didn't have enough interesting features that differeniated it from other games I have already played and the fact that it simply wasn't the game I hoped it would be.

I think part of the issue really is the fact that Star Wars Old Republic at least in my eyes was supposed to be different. I mean in the last couple of years we have had some interesting MMO's but none of them really differentiated themselves in anyway. Star Wars Republic has some interesting features like voice overs and cinematics, but these things really have a limited shelf life (about a month apperantly).

I mean Aion for example was a fun game, but what did it do that other games haven't already done better? Rift was a great game, but again... it was a clone of many other games I have already played. Star Wars Old Republic kind of found itself in the same company. Its just more of the same in a different universe/franchise. Even its art direction is so familiar it hurts, I constantly found myself reminded of of these past games. Combat and the whole treadmill is just so repetative and so horribly cloned from other games its just not fun to do it all again even if it is a different game.

I found myself getting bored of this game even faster than some of its predescessors from which it clearly borrowed. The developers spent a lot of time and money developing a game on a design that really wasn't special or unique.

I was expecting a lot more out of this game and it simply didn't provide anything new. Looking at games like Arch Age for example or Eve Online where developers are actually moving the genre forward should have been what motivated this games designers and developers... not trying to replicate World of Warcraft in space, which really is what this game did. Which is fine, but we already have half a dozen games that do that, so we really didn't need another one.