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sevev
01.23.2012 , 11:27 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by acatlas View Post
Personally i dont see how arena ruined wow. I mean if you dont like PvP dont PvP cosmetics from PvP do not hurt the game. If players pvp for the cosmetic peices those peices are no better than gear players get from warzones at the moment they are cosmetic only meaning players who get them recieve a cosmetic bonus because they preform well.

If you cant find a player who you can pvp with then you do 1v1 arena with a companion. The idea of adding a companion allows players to not rely on another player while providing a versitility to balance class flaws. IE) an assassin dps might use talos or a sorcerer who heals might use ashara and so on depending on your class your start and balance factors. Seeing companions are not players you also add in the element that they balance out a lil better in some ways with evening out against players because expertise benefits them i would assume against players but does not benefit players against them.

There are alot of elements to that that could be looked at as an interesting balance to the equation. Additionally having ladders of 1v1 up to 4v4 adds additional elements to the game and gives people who enjoy the pvp aspects of the game something to strive for later in the game.

Some people look to end game for PvE other people want something for PvP as an end game factor. If the warzones still provide you with similar gear to the Arena PvP gear but its less asthetically pleasing well do better in arena. The same factor applies to PvE players who want gear from opps the same thing applies you want the best gear work for it. Honestly if all you loose is some asthetics well i guess that sucks for you. Or you dont get some prestige because you cant win the same thing goes in reverse. Especially with the current state of the games latency/fps issues.

I know there are plenty of people on some servers at the moment that cant do opperations at all but they would own your face in a warzone. This gives them the option to do something that allows them to get the recognition for there own personal skill in a similar fassion to a PvE player.

I also like the idea of having a death match battle royal. Its something personally i wish more games had a que to do something similar. 24 people fighting in a last man standing pvp zone. I mean its never going to be an exact science and yeah there will be downsides to it but hell it would be a tone of fun. Even if you qued with 2-3 friends and tried to team up theres no saying that like 10 people wouldnt gang gank you. There are alot of interesting factors to it and i think PvP would greatly benefit from having this. I think there should be a 100 match minimum to qualify for any of the cosmetic gear and id like to see something implimented different from the rating system wow had something more oriented arounda win/loss ration since pvp is all server oriented at the moment. (Which i personally enjoy).

They are going to add a laddered PVP system into the game.

They are not going to add arena types maps a la WOW..

The arena maps were is major issue for the game.. It took WOW about 5 season before they finally were able to make Hunter's function in the arena map..

RMP is still the face roll comp... why... no shared DR...

Major changes to PVP game play affected PVE abilities. PVE abilities that worked well in PVE were OP in PVP..

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DEuZZ
01.23.2012 , 11:28 PM | #52
Quote: Originally Posted by Sugarray View Post
Ive broken your post down objectively, proving most of your arguments as flawed and double standard. Thats not MY opinion.

Failure to realize that = narrowminded and unintelligent.
Also to correct you, i did not speak for EVERYONE, i was talking for myself, the game WILL be destroyed for ME if arena ever was to come into swtor.
Just letting you know since you clearly are confused, little kid..
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Sugarray
01.23.2012 , 11:30 PM | #53
Quote: Originally Posted by Daedricshots View Post
The only way arena could work in this game is this:

1. NEVER and i mean NEVER try to balance pvp and pve abilities.
2. You cant have fotm classes and unbeatable comps like rmp.
3. Make it so there is no gear/ratings disparity. In other words dont let high ranking teams fight fresh 50s under any circumstances.

Arena "could" work since classes are very balanced in this game but im skeptical after seeing wow's abomination of it.
You cant really say that there cant be Rmp comboes, cause those comboes surface from players and are thereby out of developers control. On a side note rmp is incredibly hard to play - and yes very rewarding once you master it.

They allready try to balance pvp and pve abilities because there is pvp in the game, but I understand your point. A seperate talent system that only applies in PvP might be an options. Again thats up to developers to theory craft about

3. I agree. The only problem would be if theres too few playing, creating a long wait time in queue - which will also make people angry. But it is vastly annoying yes

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Sugarray
01.23.2012 , 11:33 PM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by DEuZZ View Post
Also to correct you, i did not speak for EVERYONE, i was talking for myself, the game WILL be destroyed for ME if arena ever was to come into swtor.
Just letting you know since you clearly are confused, little kid..
'' they should at least don't destroy the game for others who DON'T like arena.
With that i mean the best gear titles etc, i pay to play this game, if such BIG changes need be done since you REALLY love it, ok fine! but don't let us other's suffer who enjoy the game the way it was made and are.....!''

Us = more than you.

Keep calling me a kid, makes you look smart.

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sugewise
01.23.2012 , 11:36 PM | #55
No. Huttball is fine, no need for arena.

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banemin
01.23.2012 , 11:41 PM | #56
Quote: Originally Posted by Sugarray View Post
'' they should at least don't destroy the game for others who DON'T like arena.
With that i mean the best gear titles etc, i pay to play this game, if such BIG changes need be done since you REALLY love it, ok fine! but don't let us other's suffer who enjoy the game the way it was made and are.....!''

Us = more than you.

Keep calling me a kid, makes you look smart.
Best titles? Titles mean nothing. And the titles for arena were the same every season.

Gear? Pvp gear had stats that only worked in pvp. The only way pvp gear was better for progression was if you were somehow terrible at pve, but awesome at arena.

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discosoc
01.23.2012 , 11:41 PM | #57
Even Blizzard has admitted that the Arena system was a failure.

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DEuZZ
01.23.2012 , 11:43 PM | #58
Quote: Originally Posted by discosoc View Post
Even Blizzard has admitted that the Arena system was a failure.
*nods..*
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DEuZZ
01.23.2012 , 11:45 PM | #59
Quote: Originally Posted by Sugarray View Post
'' they should at least don't destroy the game for others who DON'T like arena.
With that i mean the best gear titles etc, i pay to play this game, if such BIG changes need be done since you REALLY love it, ok fine! but don't let us other's suffer who enjoy the game the way it was made and are.....!''

Us = more than you.

Keep calling me a kid, makes you look smart.
Yeah other's, people who feel the same as me = not you, ok little kid? I speak for myself, but many other's feel the same from what i read in this post, means i did not talk about people who support arena. I know it's hard to understand... Just think about it.
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acatlas
01.23.2012 , 11:46 PM | #60
Apparently half of you cant read and most of you only care about your own personal intest in the game. Creating a Fresh Thread FOR CONSTRUCTIVE thoughts.