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Bag RNG System: Aging Poorly


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Tansien
01.23.2012 , 10:27 PM | #421
I don't think quests is the solution, but i do think bags needs to be looked over.

Bags should come, by default with 1 champion commendation and 3 centurion ones.
This way, even if you're the most unlucky man on earth you can buy something after 40 or so bags.

Secondly, you should be able to return tokens to the vendor, for 1/4 of their item commendation value. This would help people who keep getting the same **** all the time.

I've personally gotten 5 relics, 4 boots, 3 belts, 3 implants, 2 bracers, 2 pants, 2 offhand, 2 helms, 2 earpieces and gloves. My longest streak without getting anything at all is 12 bags.

After 70 or so bags and valor 51, i'm currently still missing main hand and chest.

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JackKerras
01.23.2012 , 11:22 PM | #422
Quote: Originally Posted by Tansien View Post
I don't think quests is the solution, but i do think bags needs to be looked over.

Bags should come, by default with 1 champion commendation and 3 centurion ones.
This way, even if you're the most unlucky man on earth you can buy something after 40 or so bags.

Secondly, you should be able to return tokens to the vendor, for 1/4 of their item commendation value. This would help people who keep getting the same **** all the time.

I've personally gotten 5 relics, 4 boots, 3 belts, 3 implants, 2 bracers, 2 pants, 2 offhand, 2 helms, 2 earpieces and gloves. My longest streak without getting anything at all is 12 bags.

After 70 or so bags and valor 51, i'm currently still missing main hand and chest.
I personally think the solution is a complete rewrite from the ground up.

I also think that a solution that won't spend thousands and thousands of dollars' worth of BioWare's excess time is one that won't take a huge period of time to program; a little scripting, a pretty big hunk of designwork (to make sure the quests for each class/spec are viable) and a release is as far as we are away.

Changing bags to give more commendations is a huge grind that you can barely see any of your work in. Adding quests where you can watch your numbers tick upwards due to actions you are directly taking seems much more interesting to me.

Hell, you could even change it to say, instead of 'do 25 objectives', 'do 5 games wherein you do at least 5 objectives'. THAT would make people work hard in -each- game instead of just plowing through all their Huttball passes with guildies in one game, as some in this thread have come to fear.

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Darth_Vampirius
01.24.2012 , 12:13 AM | #423
Still supporting this!
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//We have seen the argument of Skill vs. Gear throughout the existence of MMO PvP and we are of the opinion both are good for an RPG, falling on one side of the scale (gear has no purpose in PvP vs. gear is the only thing that matters in PvP) is not desirable.//

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JackKerras
01.24.2012 , 12:20 AM | #424
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Vampirius View Post
Still supporting this!
Thanks a bunch! I need as much as I can get. ^_^

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Dominickz
01.24.2012 , 01:22 AM | #425
not re subscribing till they do away with the ****** bag system.

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Lokiliesmith
01.24.2012 , 08:14 AM | #426
I... don't understand. The gear from the champ bags is a BONUS reward. You aren't earning it, you're earning the commendations. It's SUPPOSED to take a long time.

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Assaultrooper
01.24.2012 , 08:21 AM | #427
Quote: Originally Posted by Lokiliesmith View Post
I... don't understand. The gear from the champ bags is a BONUS reward. You aren't earning it, you're earning the commendations. It's SUPPOSED to take a long time.
Commendations only purpose is to buy bags, hence ur "earning" the bags.

That said the point of this isn't to QQ about not getting the gear fast enough, its the randomness of it that bother this ppl. I for one feel I got all my gear way too fast, but that's only because lady luck was on my side not because I earned it.
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Just wonderin how AP is lookin pvp wise
Could be worse

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Ruwe
01.24.2012 , 08:56 AM | #428
Quote: Originally Posted by Lokiliesmith View Post
I... don't understand. The gear from the champ bags is a BONUS reward. You aren't earning it, you're earning the commendations. It's SUPPOSED to take a long time.
I am Not using centurion gear if there is any other viable alternative. I've put on as absolutely much as I could without seriously gimping myself, even the few pieces That I have put on have only truly granted me a little bit of expertise, otherwise they were usually a stat drop or a lateral movement, as soon as I hit 50 I went and purchased all purples off the GTM, the base level purples that were on there are as good as or better than the T1 gear.

My main hand is cobbled together from the lvl 40 pvp lightsaber, I have put all level 50 mods into it, that's it, just purple level 50 mods. I lose 30 endurance, 15 will and a bit off of my secondary stats. The ONLY bonus to getting that saber would be the base damage and expertise, since I don't smack things (I throw fruity pebbles instead ) getting that saber for the expertise would be the silliest thing I've done to date in game.

You don't make me grind for over a month to get T1 gear that's worse than any gear I've cobbled together off the GTM when you can get columni gear off of FP's, that's just silly and hateful.

Supporting the OP's original idea, lets see something interesting incorporated into PvP again!!
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RJMazz
01.24.2012 , 09:19 AM | #429
Good stuff, man.

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Ozlock
01.24.2012 , 09:32 AM | #430
I like the ops idea. Something should be done with the bag system. Maybe hookup a system that records how many bags you've had and if you haven't gotten a loot drop by the 5th bag drop a piece..or maybe every empty ups your percentage chance for the next one... you all know what I mean.

Anyway, I like the ops idea. Something needs to be done, I think. My guildmate opened 9 bags in the past 2 days and has gotten nothing. While I got 2 pieces outta 5 bags last night. He was frustrated, and I would be also.
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