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Swtor= dog on a chain?


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Genesizs
01.23.2012 , 10:14 PM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by Gleasia View Post
In my Op I said I feel like a dog on a chain. It's really more being able to choose more than say one zone to lvl 1-5 persay like in other mmos. All the quests in this game at least at my lvl so far have been in straight lines. If you look at the map while you quest, you will see that you just go in a straight line to the next quest.

Can someone plz articulate this better for me as I dont know if I am making sense, but I feel like my chest is going to explode when I quest in this game lol. In other mmos the questing world just felt well....... more ROUND lol.
we know what you mean , but it is just liek this , you cant handle it much more differently in a multiplanet universe .... realy ..

can tsay nothing else much then if you dont like it , this is not your game

EDIT :as just get of second planet after that it gets bigegr and better abit , tere are some pretty decent planets wich have much bigger area's and you can explore it just the level 1 to 17 that are quite small and would kinda give you a more feeling to this kidna thing you are talking about (altho some quest hubs wont open up before you completed the area before , but that pretty much natural for most mmo's ..

also in wow it was liek that in vanilla to much more , when the ystarting gimping and making gain xp much faster you just skipepd allot of area's and could just do quests wereever you would .. thats the only thing i can agree on the should have more quests to take on all quest hubs on planets not forcing you to unlock them .. or moost of them ...
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Ansultares
01.23.2012 , 10:17 PM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by BothanFourTwenty View Post
Hoth and Tattooine together by themselves are as large or larger than Kalimdor.
Hoth and Tatooine are two of the emptiest zones in this game.

Why do people keep praising them for being so large, when all that size is empty space? Across all of Hoth, only the Star of Coruscant is a notewothy landmark. On Tatooine? Can you name one landmark on Tatooine? The Sarlacc pit; you know, I didn't even see the pit, and I've got the whole damn map explored.

At least try to promote some of SWTOR's stronger zones.

Quote: Originally Posted by Genesizs View Post
we know what you mean , but it is just liek this , you cant handle it much more differently in a multiplanet universe .... realy ..
They definitely could have. GW's %damage based system (I'm not familiar with it, only have heard reference of) would have been better suited to the multiplanet structure basically forced by the IP.

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Jswizzle
01.23.2012 , 10:17 PM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Ansultares View Post
It doesn't absolve a game of offering bad content, either.

At some point on Hoth I felt like I was completing my class quest, plus two side quests, and ignoring one heroic quest, per zone. It felt so repetitive because each quest hub basically had the same setup.

I don't understand how people skip planets. What do you do, spend 1hr running across the entire planet, doing the three class quests on that planet along the way? How do you substitute for the XP, through flashpoints or warzones, or are you one of those people who skip bonus series' in order to "maintain the challenge?"
I do some dailys like PVP, and space missions. I always try to be more powerful than the areas I go to. That way I can solo a couple heroics and just have an easier time exploring.

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Minack
01.23.2012 , 10:18 PM | #94
Quote: Originally Posted by Sai-to View Post
I can go to Warzones and PvP whenever I want too in TOR... what's your point?

EVE is not a sandbox, it's an illusion of one. Until you have a ship powerful enough to survive... i.e. be High level. Just like all MMOs.


I played EVE for 2 years. Don't tell me what I know.


So I suppose TOR isn't a themepark? It's just an illusion of one because I can queue up at level 10?

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Surakis
01.23.2012 , 10:19 PM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by Minack View Post
I can tell you've never played Eve before or at least not for very long. You're making the mistake of thinking you need a BS or larger in order to PvP.

I can go to Nullsec in a noob ship and PvP right now if I wanted to. You can argue about the effectiveness of that, but even then you cannot possibly compare the linear themepark progression of TOR and the sandbox of Eve. The linear aspect is so blatant and in your face that they even show the recommended level for each planet on the galaxy travel screen.
Yeah and you can go fight level 40 mobs at level 10 in this game. Doesn't mean it's a sandbox game.

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Shakari
01.23.2012 , 10:21 PM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by Taurusaud View Post
Sounds like you haven't played WoW, you can go anywhere in that game and find quests. Travel off the beaten path next time you play it, there's tons of quests all over the gameworld.
Dunno what WoW your playing ... been playing and still am playing since launch and its never been like that lol there all still linear one quest hub points to the next etc one zone points to the next and so on ... and in cata its got even more linear infact so linear I could now draw a big "S" through the hyjal zone showing the quest progression ... it follows a single path lol.

So as has been said... just like pretty much every MMO going... if it was much different questing would be a pain in the behind you;d spend more time looking for quests than doing them.

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MrFailSauce
01.23.2012 , 10:22 PM | #97
WoW felt exactly like this game on release.

WoW is more open ended now because they completely redid most of the lowbie content, and added a lot more zones, but that revamp took them a long time. If SWTOR makes it 5 years, I imagine that Bioware will able to do the same thing.

In the original WoW(before the cataclysm) , after level 10, you could choose between one to three zones that were basically linear. In SWTOR, you can choose between two planets that are basically linear. (I did balmorra, but for nar shada, I just dropped in for the class quest and then moved on. I just did tattouine, I doubt I'll do everything on alderan.

10-20 was Silverpines or Barrens. 20-30 was ashenvale or hillsbarad. 30-40 was arathi or alterac.

At least in SWTOR it doesn't take 20 minutes to fly between zones.

I think that the biggest problems in SWTOR are social. Awful, faction balance, no bubble chat, no PvE queues. Most of the swtor global chat is just people looking for groups. But these things are all fixable.

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BothanFourTwenty
01.23.2012 , 10:23 PM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by Ansultares View Post
Hoth and Tatooine are two of the emptiest zones in this game.

Why do people keep praising them for being so large, when all that size is empty space? Across all of Hoth, only the Star of Coruscant is a notewothy landmark. On Tatooine? Can you name one landmark on Tatooine? The Sarlacc pit; you know, I didn't even see the pit, and I've got the whole damn map explored.

At least try to promote some of SWTOR's stronger zones.

They definitely could have. GW's %damage based system (I'm not familiar with it, only have heard reference of) would have been better suited to the multiplanet structure basically forced by the IP.

Most of Kalimdor is empty space as well. 60% of the area you NEVER even set foot on because the majority is just filler and not quest related at all. Unless of course you just WANT to run down past that line of trees because it may be a shortcut to where you are going. Just because it has trees everywhere and critters running around that does not equal content. So basically both games are exactly the same. I think we are all in agreement on that point.

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MrFailSauce
01.23.2012 , 10:23 PM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by Ansultares View Post
Can you name one landmark on Tatooine?

That f***ing balloon to the datacron.

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Ansultares
01.23.2012 , 10:27 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by MrFailSauce View Post
That f***ing balloon to the datacron.
They became the most memorable content across the planets.