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DONT force me into pvp. I do NOT like being forced.

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DONT force me into pvp. I do NOT like being forced.

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Enako
01.23.2012 , 10:09 PM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by Uruare View Post
Is...any of that helpful, or at least ameliorating of your concern?
no.

because being a pvp gamer who had spent majority of last decade pvping, i know that if there is anything to exploit, someone will eventually start exploiting it.

there were a bunch of 4 people continually trolling and griefing the low level quest zones by killing all npcs and trying to flag non-flagged low level players in that zone. these people were there every day except one day of the weekend, at 4 hours each night, nonstop.

there was even one person grief pvping an entire zone by himself/herself for over 1.5 years in earlier server i was on.

............

similar mechanics are here. they will get exploited eventually when populations rise and different varieties of players come.

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Enako
01.23.2012 , 10:10 PM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by Gohlar View Post
It certainly is possible, people do it.

Remember, you are allowed to think while questing. Hope this helps you from making threads like this in the future. I would not comment about game design if I were you though, you are still learning to do simple quests.

And no complaining about an optional, hypothetical situation is in no way valid.
and now go back to the smuggler thread, and count the numbers of people who did not 'do it', despite the hints given in the thread, and later posted.

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Gohlar
01.23.2012 , 10:12 PM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Enako View Post
and now go back to the smuggler thread, and count the numbers of people who did not 'do it', despite the hints given in the thread, and later posted.
Want to know who did figure it out?

Everyone else.

I realize this thread hasn't gone well for you and you are desperate to come up with something, but there is a time to admit you're wrong and walk away.

Stop making excuses, stop blaming the game for your own mistake and learn from it. Don't complain about things that aren't even a problem. That's just silly.

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crazyhorsek
01.23.2012 , 10:13 PM | #94
lol all this because of one quest... that you do once?

Wow... talk about being whiney. I heard a lot of whining but nothing came down to this level.

Grats... you are now my new "lowest"... You the real life Francis? Did you cry and whine when Arthas died?

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Sulleyn
01.23.2012 , 10:15 PM | #95
All it is is a problem with the map, the second poster mentioned he had similar in hoth, all this is is the map guiding you to the quickest route which happens NOT to be the safest, stop think and look around

i encountered similar it wanted me to go through a sith base, when u could just go round, its exactly the same as when it comes up with the green arrow into a box sending you to the next area, the map designates this as the quickest route

just stop look around and chill, you arnt being asked to pvp and even then who cares? you'd think you were being asked to shoot your mum the way this thread is worded

people ask for more exploration yet this kind of topic comes up?

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Solimen
01.23.2012 , 10:16 PM | #96
...lol

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Enako
01.23.2012 , 10:19 PM | #97
http://i.imgur.com/YNZnr.jpg

this is what you see when you get to the coordinates you can find OVER THE WEB.

and i have stopped right at the entrance of two caves, close, because i now found them.

anyone who was wandering from outside easily passes the cave on the right, because its entrance does not appear evidently when you approach it from south, and you cant even see it from the north.

if you get the coordinates from the web, and get to those coordinates, you will very easily get past the cave and meet the bounty hunter cave thats right after there.

..............

the entrance to the cave is not apparent in any point in the map. leave aside the quest tracker and triangulation system guiding you there, the cave does not appear at all in the map.

so it is evident that the player is expected to make a choice in between the level 50 elite pve entrance, or the ffa pvp entrance. and only find this cave if s/he doggedly avoids the two, and seeks another way without even knowing there is any - if s/he does not seek external websites.

which basically means that you are not supposed to find that cave easily and take either ffa or pve reskill route.

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Pastorfrog
01.23.2012 , 10:22 PM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by Enako View Post
http://i.imgur.com/YNZnr.jpg

this is what you see when you get to the coordinates you can find OVER THE WEB.

and i have stopped right at the entrance of two caves, close, because i now found them.

anyone who was wandering from outside easily passes the cave on the right, because its entrance does not appear evidently when you approach it from south, and you cant even see it from the north.

if you get the coordinates from the web, and get to those coordinates, you will very easily get past the cave and meet the bounty hunter cave thats right after there.

..............

the entrance to the cave is not apparent in any point in the map. leave aside the quest tracker and triangulation system guiding you there, the cave does not appear at all in the map.

so it is evident that the player is expected to make a choice in between the level 50 elite pve entrance, or the ffa pvp entrance. and only find this cave if s/he doggedly avoids the two, and seeks another way without even knowing there is any - if s/he does not seek external websites.

which basically means that you are not supposed to find that cave easily and take either ffa or pve reskill route.

And yet, countless smugglers have, indeed, found their way through that cave.

Apparently we're amazingly talented and/or intelligent.

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Tiresias
01.23.2012 , 10:23 PM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by Enako View Post
i was able to find it in my 4th try now. i have found a cave to north of it which was red zoned to me. the entrance is totally obscured.

finding it would not be possible without referring to external sites. even by referring to them it is obscure.

i would like to be relieved, but as it stands the cave is meant to be hard to find, and the player apparently is meant to make a choice in between going through imperial or ffa zones to make the pass.

which means unfortunately, the original point of this post, is valid.
You are looking for reasons to be angry.

You aren't interested in rational discussion or even willing to accept the possibility that you are wrong. I'm thinking that my comment about you surrounding yourself with sycophantic yes-men is spot-on.

This cave in question? I found it in BETA, back before we had sites with pretty maps that lead you through coordinate-based routes. Would you even be willing to play an MMO that doesn't have a quest locator on the map?

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Gohlar
01.23.2012 , 10:23 PM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by Enako View Post
http://i.imgur.com/YNZnr.jpg

this is what you see when you get to the coordinates you can find OVER THE WEB.

and i have stopped right at the entrance of two caves, close, because i now found them.

anyone who was wandering from outside easily passes the cave on the right, because its entrance does not appear evidently when you approach it from south, and you cant even see it from the north.

if you get the coordinates from the web, and get to those coordinates, you will very easily get past the cave and meet the bounty hunter cave thats right after there.

..............

the entrance to the cave is not apparent in any point in the map. leave aside the quest tracker and triangulation system guiding you there, the cave does not appear at all in the map.

so it is evident that the player is expected to make a choice in between the level 50 elite pve entrance, or the ffa pvp entrance. and only find this cave if s/he doggedly avoids the two, and seeks another way without even knowing there is any - if s/he does not seek external websites.

which basically means that you are not supposed to find that cave easily and take either ffa or pve reskill route.
You're funny.