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Swtor= dog on a chain?


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Katrar
01.23.2012 , 09:39 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Jswizzle View Post
All games are linear. Look up the definition. All games essentially put you in a giant box. You can't leave the box, you can't do anything other than what is programmed into the game.

The old Republic gives you plenty of choices. You can skip planets, quests. You can level up solely through PVP, which vanilla wow never had.
Sorry but skipping planets/quests should never be a planned "alternative". Think about what you just wrote. The alternative to the linear questing experience is to simply avoid some of it?

Those that are saying the diversity of leveling options available in WoW and other games is inherently superior to a straight linear experience are 100% right. Those of you refuting this are doing so out of blind loyalty to an inferior product.
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Ansultares
01.23.2012 , 09:39 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Malichus View Post
...and WoW launched that way, right? It's not because they have had 7 years of adding content to make it that way.
It did.

Like I said, when I finally took the time to run all of the vanilla content (except a few class and crafting quests), I discovered tons of stuff I had missed on my multiple previous 60s.

Actually, I bet they lost some of the character of those vanilla zones as they've gone back and re-touched them. I bet Dustwallow Marsh is half the mysterious place it was before.

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Minack
01.23.2012 , 09:39 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Sai-to View Post
@OP: Never played an MMO before? They're all like that.
No, they're all not.

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Jswizzle
01.23.2012 , 09:41 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by Redsuns_ View Post
lol what kind of choice is this?

Level through the linear planets. (BTW you still have to visit the planet and do the class quest for the companions.)

or

level by only pvp for a more mindlessly boring mmo experience.
The point is you are free to explore. You have choices, you just don't like them. Would you guys really be happy with 5 more planets? I somehow doubt it.

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BothanFourTwenty
01.23.2012 , 09:45 PM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by Jswizzle View Post
The point is you are free to explore. You have choices, you just don't like them. Would you guys really be happy with 5 more planets? I somehow doubt it.
I'm starting to think that no matter what new mmos come out with now people will NEVER be happy. That graphical chat room named World of Warcraft has spoiled everyone to the point of if it's new it HAS to have just as much content as current WoW with exactly the same features. I used to love WoW, played it for 6 years, but I have recently started to hate that game with a passion because EVERYTHING these days is compared to it. Is why I'll never buy another Blizzard game.

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Jswizzle
01.23.2012 , 09:46 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Katrar View Post
Sorry but skipping planets/quests should never be a planned "alternative". Think about what you just wrote. The alternative to the linear questing experience is to simply avoid some of it?

Those that are saying the diversity of leveling options available in WoW and other games is inherently superior to a straight linear experience are 100% right. Those of you refuting this are doing so out of blind loyalty to an inferior product.
Thanks for the insight. Except you completely contradicted yourself. Aren't you skipping content in WOW to quest in the "alternative" areas? So it's a viable option in WOW, but not in TOR. We know where your bias is.

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Sai-to
01.23.2012 , 09:47 PM | #67
Quote: Originally Posted by Minack View Post
No, they're all not.

Yeah, they are. There is not one MMO that doesn't follow the definition the OP has used for "linear".

All MMOs are linear, in the way it's being used.

For example: FFXI

I start off in Ronfaure, then I either go to La Theine or Valkurm Dunes (depending if I get a party or not, though I have to go through La Theine to get to Dunes). Mind you, this is a straight line progression, just like the different areas of the Starter planets in TOR.

Then I go to Qufim Island. Then I go to Mandys. Then I go to Beetles. And so on, and so on.

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Surakis
01.23.2012 , 09:49 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by DrJimmi View Post
Except SWG
SWG's leash was the mission terminal.

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Ansultares
01.23.2012 , 09:49 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by BothanFourTwenty View Post
I'm starting to think that no matter what new mmos come out with now people will NEVER be happy. That graphical chat room named World of Warcraft has spoiled everyone to the point of if it's new it HAS to have just as much content as current WoW with exactly the same features. I used to love WoW, played it for 6 years, but I have recently started to hate that game with a passion because EVERYTHING these days is compared to it. Is why I'll never buy another Blizzard game.
I'm asking for as much content, and generally as well laid out, as vanilla WoW had. So, no outlands, no northrend, the only thing behind the grey wall was a huge dirt patch, the airport was a nono and getting caught there could get you banned, etc.etc.etc.

WoW haters keep acting like it had no content at release, like both factions had a linear progression they were shuffled through from one zone to the next, but it was nothing like that. I'd say it easily had twice the content SWTOR has, at release.

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JediZenn
01.23.2012 , 09:51 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Gleasia View Post
I am only lvl 13 or so but I just can't get into this game. I always have a feeling of being led like a dog on a chain because the worlds/quest enviroments are so linear. I always feel like I am being led down a tunnel, and at the end the next quest starts that will further lead me down another tunnel and maybe this one has a 90 degree turn. I dont have the feeling like I am in a world that I can go anywhere I please like in other mmorpgs I have played.

Does it get better at higher lvls? Should I stick with the game? Does anyone else have this feeling like the game is controling them instead of you controlling the game??

Thanks in advance for your feedback

Technically, once you get your ship you can go to any planet you want.

Thats just as "open" as say, World of Warcraft.

This is NOT Skyrim, nor will any MMO ever BE like Skyrim.

All MMO's linear, always have been. Also, KOTOR was Linear, very Linear.

Being Linear doesn't automatically mean bad.