Guard Needs Fixing Now, or Why We Have So Many Burst Damage Whines

Except that it does whenever you have healing to throw into the mix too.

We've been over this before. If guard is in the game you can't burst the healer when the tank is within 15 yards, which means you need to be able to do more overall burst to get a kill because healers who arn't getting hit heal for more than healers who are getting hit.

In a world with guard burst needs to be significantly higher to get a kill no matter how you go about getting the kill.

Guard in Organised vs Organised is used to control damage against a focus fired target. One of the easiest ways to counter guard is to simply have your team focus fire an unguarded target to force the tank to change guard or lose the unguarded target. Usually you go like this:

1) Focus fire an unguarded DPS.
2) Interrupt the healer when guard switches to the focused guy.
3) Continue burning down the target while using CC/knockbacks/pulls to push the target/tank out of guard range.

Honestly the easiest way to counter guard is to ignore it. If you have to fight someone who is guarded then you need focus fire from everyone as well as CC/Pulls/Knockbacks to get them out of guard range.

You don't think the sith assasin class is balanced around stealth? You don't think BW considered the stealth abilities of the class when deciding other things about the class?

That would be about the same as saying guard has no relationship to burst damage.

you make the assumption that the game is balanced around pvp, it's not really, and probably never will be, it's based around a cpl pvp parameters (like you can't insta kill people), but the actual balance isn't anything to do with pvp. Case in point - allowing the jugg/guard to have charge recycle after push when their massive burst spec is setup by charge wouldn't make sense if you were balancing around pvp, unless you realise it was done so they can cluster pve enemies a lot easier.

Well, it sounds like you must like the current system then! Don't worry about how it'll affect balance going forward because it doesn't really even come into play if you focus the tank or have the healer out of guard range.

EDIT: And we already agreed you want to kill the tank first (sometimes), so there will be heals regardless of whether Guard or Forced Targets or something else keeps you from focusing the healer first.

That makes no sense, so you get bonus damage when you hit somebody that is guarded? That means that guard would completely worthless, all it would do at all would be that it slightly reduces how long it takes to kill a healer. It would be pointless in any sort of competitive play.

If it was tank/healer vs tank/healer, know who would win? The one that doesn't use Guard.

From my observations...

Both under the current system and under your suggested system the same rule stands true...

You're a complete moron and have no idea *** you're even talking about

I can read just fine. You however, have difficulty remembering what you write. I'll demonstrate in bold the times you felt you need to take down the Tank 100% of the time, because of these situations.

Is this entire thread based on the complaint that a certain mechanic makes gameplay unbalanced when utilized by an organized group against an unorganized one? If that is the case (I'm only saying IF), we would clearly need to make it so that no premade group could queue since the only advantage being used to a tactical advantage is the organization of the team.

I think a ranked system would work better. Smart people can play smart people, dumb people can keep posting complaints.

Forget it...