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Don't Nerf Tracer Missle/Grav rounds.....Nerf

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Don't Nerf Tracer Missle/Grav rounds.....Nerf

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Barakus
01.23.2012 , 02:24 PM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by Zarthorn View Post
Armor Piercing Cell and High Velocity Gas Cylinder!

So again, I ask how is 35% consistent armor pen on a heavy armor wearing class that can consistently stack to 60% armor pen fair? (not forgetting here, you have to invest absolutely nothing for that armor pen vs a 31 talent point)

Now you have your answer and the true problem behind Grav/Tracer spam.
Yet Commando/Mercenary damage still wasn't even coming close to Operative/Scoundrel.

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TheRealBoz
01.23.2012 , 02:26 PM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by Zarthorn View Post
Scoundrel/Ops nerf, based on whines to the most, that ship sailed.

LoS only works if you are on a map that allows for it like Alderaan, try LoS'ing consistently on Voidstar, Huttball and Ilum, this is a falsity created to bring about an illusion that Tracer/Grav is balanced.

1.5 sec induction time, takes much longer than that to duck for cover im afraid.
Hahaha, it's by far the easiest to LoS in Huttball. After that, it's Voidstar because there are multiple pillars, platforms, random poles and crates. It's much trickier to LoS on Alderaan.
Conclusion: You have no idea what you're talking about.
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Proto
01.23.2012 , 02:31 PM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by Zarthorn View Post
So lets hear it, Commandos and Mercs, I want to know how you can defend this atrocity...how can you, a class with heavy armor be allowed over every other class....the highest armor pen and not even have to spend a single point in any mastery tree for it?

I could add the Vanguard/Powertech to the list of classes you have more armor pen than, but I think pointing out that you already have more armor pen than every other mirror pushes the point home stronger.
I don't think they need to defend it considering Bioware openly supports it considering their next update is going to give Operatives a 30% passive Armor Pen in place of some of the nerfs. They CLEARLY think its A-OK so don't think for a moment they're going to change Tracer or High Velocity rounds. They won't.

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Zarthorn
01.23.2012 , 02:43 PM | #64
Quote: Originally Posted by TheRealBoz View Post
Hahaha, it's by far the easiest to LoS in Huttball. After that, it's Voidstar because there are multiple pillars, platforms, random poles and crates. It's much trickier to LoS on Alderaan.
Conclusion: You have no idea what you're talking about.
Merc sidesteps, LoS cleared.

note how you dodged the whole point of Ilum lacking LoS spots.

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Malice_Nihilim
01.23.2012 , 02:44 PM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by Spyde View Post
Tracer missle now has more burst then ops can ever dream of...

3k dmg over and over ftw from 30m away and only a 1.5 sec cast time.
yeah, how dare they! (while I try to run away from a sorc hitting me with endless chain lightening snare ticking for 3500) yeah...rough....
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TheRealBoz
01.23.2012 , 02:48 PM | #66
Quote: Originally Posted by Zarthorn View Post
Merc sidesteps, LoS cleared.

note how you dodged the whole point of Ilum lacking LoS spots.
I love how you dodged entire posts before, yet now you call people out...
I dodged the Ilum point because Ilum is trash, sucks, and inability to LoS is the least of its problems.
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Chiricahua
01.23.2012 , 02:50 PM | #67
Nerf callers please go away. You are ruining this game.

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Malice_Nihilim
01.23.2012 , 02:52 PM | #68
Quote: Originally Posted by Zarthorn View Post
Merc sidesteps, LoS cleared.

note how you dodged the whole point of Ilum lacking LoS spots.
Ald and Ilum allow you to simply move out of range of them easily.
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Zarthorn
01.23.2012 , 02:54 PM | #69
Quote: Originally Posted by TheRealBoz View Post
I love how you dodged entire posts before, yet now you call people out...
I dodged the Ilum point because Ilum is trash, sucks, and inability to LoS is the least of its problems.
Dodged? I haven't dodged anything because every response on the "defence" is rehashed same old stuff I have seen in more games than you care to count, so should I sit and try to respond to every person that chooses to defend by rehashing the same defence they have used against countless agitated players at how they are right and we are wrong?

I could delve even deeper, hitboxes, latency, ability delay, etc but what will it achieve?

More of the same handful of people that likely discovered how abusable tracer/grav was in beta but kept it quiet so they could abuse it live responding with the same old "oh you just bad, just los, just interupt, you don't know the class"

yes I know the class, one of my alts is a gunnery commando and I know how stupidly easy it is to beat people by spamming grav round when they have to put in 20x the effort I do to kill me.

Honestly when you can come out with some figures and proper facts how the commando/merc needs to have such an abuseable skillset you get back to me....

Until that time, just another kiddy that wants to keep his bottle.

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TheRealBoz
01.23.2012 , 02:56 PM | #70
Quote: Originally Posted by Zarthorn View Post
Dodged? I haven't dodged anything because every response on the "defence" is rehashed same old stuff I have seen in more games than you care to count, so should I sit and try to respond to every person that chooses to defend by rehashing the same defence they have used against countless agitated players at how they are right and we are wrong?

I could delve even deeper, hitboxes, latency, ability delay, etc but what will it achieve?

More of the same handful of people that likely discovered how abusable tracer/grav was in beta but kept it quiet so they could abuse it live responding with the same old "oh you just bad, just los, just interupt, you don't know the class"

yes I know the class, one of my alts is a gunnery commando and I know how stupidly easy it is to beat people by spamming grav round when they have to put in 20x the effort I do to kill me.

Honestly when you can come out with some figures and proper facts how the commando/merc needs to have such an abuseable skillset you get back to me....

Until that time, just another kiddy that wants to keep his bottle.
So, YOU don't have to respond to every point, but when anyone else fails to respond, they're OMG DODGING THE ISSUE?
Stay classy.

Also, since YOU are the one claiming the class is OP, burden of proof is on you. Noone has to prove they aren't OP.
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