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On a 1-10 scale, how happy are you with PvP?

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On a 1-10 scale, how happy are you with PvP?

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Darth_Gao_Gao
01.23.2012 , 02:15 PM | #421
when i give my rating, i consider what i would be playing if i wasn't playing SWTOR. those games would be eve online, bf3, and skyrim. as of now, i enjoy SWTOR more than the mentioned, and pvping is a large part of what i do.

given this, i give the warzone pvp a 9. i haven't messed with ilum because i'm not a neckbeard, yet.

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Seventh
01.23.2012 , 02:17 PM | #422
Quote: Originally Posted by Greennunu View Post
I skipped reading all the other post cause I hit last page, but landed on yours and just can't believe my eyes. I am a level 50 PT, got there when the Pubs hit 50 first and had a whole guild that farmed constantly for gear and we would always run into them while lvling (through PvP). Saved 1000/1000 and got on commedations from my 6 bags (2-3 pieces from the weekly after that).

PvP to level 50 just makes you know what to do in PvP better, does not make you a beast because those who have made it to level 50 and been PvPing still should be more beastly than you. You are just now not a complete noob.

BW didn't screw you, you had the same chance everyone else had, everyone got potentially 6 bags once hitting 50, if they removed the cap you would just be complaining that they didn't give you enough comms per match and couldn't get more bags.

You act like you are the only new or relatively new 50 with no PvP gear, and that when you que up you are only ever going against 2 4man premade groups with full BM/champ gear. You are in a mixed bag most of the time, instead of feeling sorry for yourself why not try to find a guild that would help you win those matches.

Legacy System has been around since launch, your fault for not knowing, your fault for not finding out, your fault for negating it completely. Or did you want someone to hold your hand throughout the game and tell you what every feature is and coddle you and hand you free gear?

Now back OT, I rate it as a 8/10.
Mostly happy with the system, CC could use a lot of tweeking. I am mostly disapointed in only having 3 Warzones, after playing so many times it gets old. Illium offers a wide open space with nothing to do 80% of the time. Gear is relatively frustrating to get at times, but when you can ger up fully in 3 weeks(champ gear), while working 12 hour shifts I think I can say its easier than most MMO. BM gear is another beast.
Agree with most points of yours... I am just griping, so sorry you didn't like it. It was MY choice to PVP to 50 ignoring quests, because I didn't realize the penalties and great negative consequences of doing so. BioWare allowed you to PVP at level 10 so it seemed fun to do... more fun than the questline tbo.

My questions to you are:
-Can you tell me one good reason they capped commendations at 1000/1000?
-Why they reward only 5xp for grey quests?
-Why people who strictly did PVE from levels 1-50 then PVPed one day at 50 has a leg up on someone who PVPed strictly from levels 10-50 over the course of a month in PVP?

Also going from PVPing at level 10->50 I realized the more time passed by I started to doubt my PVP potential being unable to do anything to the other teams. The only game I was able to win at became Huttball with fire/acid since the faction unbalance allowed for Republics to get geared heavily with their instant pvp queues racking up gear. Try taking out a deck out PVP geared tank/healer combo with 4 people who just hit 50.

Lastly... did I say I was feeling sorry for myself? I am just bringing points of what BW is doing wrong hoping to improve the game in aspects that I went through. I am just angry at BW for making me work much more to reach the same result as someone else. It may seem fair to you, or you might just shrug problems off... fine for you, but as someone who pays to see a game get better, I have more expectations for the company. Also I do have a capable guild that is decent in PVPing, but that still doesn't fix this problems for the others that don't have that luxury.
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Betrayus
01.23.2012 , 02:24 PM | #423
I give it a 7/10. PvP is Fair. I enjoy it for the most part in all truth. Only thing that gets me are the frame rates, but in all truth. That's my computer. Not this game. I need a new processor which i will be getting on next pay day. After that I know it will run smoother. I've played on systems with better processors, it was smooth pvping. So my issues are on my end really. I preferred Bracketting in WoW won't lie, but this "everyone on par" pvp method isn't bad either. Other than the 50's always smashing on me with their uber gear, but eh, if you don't like it don't sign up right? I like this whole game won't lie. I haven't been this emersed in an MMO since... well WoW i guess, but that's because my friends wanted to get to 60-70. I slowed down my grind for this one. I don't want to hit 50 yet. I want to enjoy all the aspects from every level.

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SammuelSK
01.23.2012 , 02:26 PM | #424
As a melee, I'd give it a total of 1/10.

Gameplay - 0/10
Lag, unresponsiveness, random rubberbanding or characters simply not being where the game shows them to be causing to repeated spam of "You are not behind the target" or "You need to be closer to the target" simply ruin the enjoyment for me.

Balance - 2/10
Too many spammable abilities for certain classes, chain CC's(knockbacks don't give resolve) leading to KB, KB, root and finnally stun situations. This in my opinion seems the single biggest problem with PVP in this game. Nobody wants to be locked out, knocked away from a fight repeatedly and without end.

Ability to Patch Properly without Destorying the game - Big Fat 0/10

Illum and IA changes seem to be an indication of whats going to be the future of the game, heavy handed and ill concieved changes that ruin gameplay and break classes. I personally have lost a lot of faith in Biowares ability to manage this game recently, not quitting, but also not as big of a fan as I was not even a month ago.

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Roak
01.23.2012 , 02:30 PM | #425
1/10

I subbed for month 2 because I have rl friends playing, I cancelled subscription one day later and am now playing 29 days out.

They ignored so many constructive pvp threads post launch and the best they came up with is this, its a ******* disgrace from a AAA game development studio.
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WombatSasquatch
01.23.2012 , 02:31 PM | #426
I give pvp a 9/10. I rolled Sith Empire and do not regret it. I love huttball but the only thing I don't like are the champ bags. Im valor rank 47 and still missing my head, chest piece, boots, belt, and something else.

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clickonce
01.23.2012 , 02:44 PM | #427
Quote: Originally Posted by WombatSasquatch View Post
I give pvp a 9/10. I rolled Sith Empire and do not regret it. I love huttball but the only thing I don't like are the champ bags. Im valor rank 47 and still missing my head, chest piece, boots, belt, and something else.
I agree.. 9/10 here as well... at least for the 10-49 war-zones.

At 50 I give it a 1/10. Well actually it's difficult to rate since it doesn't exist on my server. I can go afk in the middle of Ilum until I'm kicked to logon.. It is dead. And Q's are hours long.

I solved that problem by re-rolling on pub side. Now I'm back to having a blast. I have zero interest in quests/raiding.

Aside from non-existent 50 pvp... my only other gripe is with pvp gear. There is armor at 20 and 40... That's it pre-50. There needs to be more. There should be a set for every valor tier. Skirmisher & gladiator are missing.

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Geewiz
01.23.2012 , 03:55 PM | #428
2/10

Huttball 95% of the time, 80% of which are losses, even though i actively try to advance the cause instead of chase medals. Also make it easier to pass, instead of the aoe reticle, just select a team mate and click pass. Several abilities are way overpowered as well. The AOE knockback being the biggest culprit.

Medal chasers: hurt the team in many cases.

Melee handicap: you cannot apply your damage as a melee as easily as a ranged, plus they do more damage than you. If you have to work to stay in thier face, being there you should tear them apart. (say learn to play all you want, its a fact they have a distinct advantage)

CC: Too much, make the resolve bar fill faster.

Rewards: the random bag thing is terrible, they should grant champ commendations and let you build up and choose which piece of gear to buy. Fix Tier 3 lightsaber damage.

Premade 4 mans: should only be paired against other premade 4 mans. (should be a solo bracket)

Rankings: people should be ranked according to either their gear (expertise) or valor and set against similar to help remove the 10 losses in a row syndrome.

Losers bracket: If people have lost 5 games in a row, put them in a losers bracket, so all the people with terrible luck or that suck can at least practice against others who suck and maybe get a few wins.

MVP: should be computer selected weighted heavily on who contributed the most to objectives (healing, ball carrying, goals, turret defense, etc. Do not allow players to select mvps because many times they just vote for thier buddies and thier buddies vote them back.

Variety: i hate 2/3 of the warzones, the only one i accually like is alderaan civil war. Give us more, come up with something unique and fun, maybe even a last man standing type deal.

Thats all i can think of right now, some of it will be flamed, some will be praised, who gives a &^%$.

Thats all i can think of right now, but im sure there is more.

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Evuke
01.23.2012 , 03:56 PM | #429
1/10 - it's pathetic beyond belief, worse than Warhammer and i don't even know how that's possible.

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Radiozo
01.23.2012 , 03:58 PM | #430
Quote: Originally Posted by Evuke View Post
1/10 - it's pathetic beyond belief, worse than Warhammer and i don't even know how that's possible.
Exactly. Warhammer had stellar PVP compared to this steamin pile of monkey crap.
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