Guard Needs Fixing Now, or Why We Have So Many Burst Damage Whines

Not when you rebalance things accordingly.

The point is that this isn't about Guard being too powerful in 1.1. The point is that guard is too game-changing period. It is so game-changing that you have to balance with guard in mind and unbalance the rest of the game, or balance without guard in mind and unbalance guard.

For the health of the overall PVP game PVP tanking needs to be changed to more active, pinpoint mitigation rather than a flat passive 50% soul link.

If you want to call that a guard "nerf" you can I guess but it just shows you arn't really thinking about the bigger picture. The intent is not to make tanks less viable in PVP, the intent is to lessen the impact of an ability which changes the balance calculus much too much.

So do you suggest that the AoE taunt for the tanks be put on a reduced cool down from 45 seconds? As what you have said is pretty much useless we get to taunt someone every 15 seconds (ONE). and 85% from on target is pretty damn useless. As you would usualy have if your group has any sense to them would move the ftrain to the healer as soon as you saw them doing their job.

The point is it makes guard a trade-off, not a no-brainer passive ability that totally screws up game balance.

If you're the type of player who'd rather deal 125% damage spread out over two targets you are not a very good player in the first place. If we really are worried about people like you we can just make it still only count as 100% damage dealt for reward purposes.

Anyhow, these are all just brainstorming. The problem is very real and there needs to be SOME solution because it is just a mathematical problem with no solution. Guard creates a dynamic where if you balance to guard burst is too high but if you balance not to guard no one ever dies.

Bigger picture or not. You're claiming you're not calling for a nerf, but in the most technical sense of what a nerf is, you are calling for a nerf. Just because you don't want to believe you're calling for a nerf, doesn't make it so. You can't change the definition of it just because it suits you.

It's hard to understand because it's just wrong.

If you balance burst for unguarded targets no one ever dies in guard. Not because they're taking 50% less damage, but because IN ORDER TO BALANCE FOR GUARD, burst needs to be higher than it otherwise would be because you have to be able to burst down a tank in the time you can CC a healer.

Your argument would only be true if guard had no impact on a healer's ability to keep targets up. Which is clearly wrong.

How is taking 50% of someone's damage a no brainer passive ability. You dont seem to understand guard at all

Talking bout tanks being useless in PVP otherwise is also missing the point. It isn't about usefulness. It isn't that tanks are overpowered per se.

The problem is that as long as guard exists in the game you've got a fundamental mathematical conundrum. Do you balance burst dps to guard, or not? Either way you get bad results.

I am all for PVP tanking being effective. But guard isn't the way to do it.

I don't know if you've spent much time PvPing in this game or if you're just going off assumptions from WoW. Obviously, you're pretty set on your opinion here. I disagree.

You are talking gibberish.