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I honestly hate this community. I love the game, but the community is the equivalent of spoiled children throwing tantrums when they dont get what they want.

"Bioware sold out. Bioware sucks at games. Bioware this Biowre that. Patch 1.1 should of fixed every single bug in the game and given me a magical space pony that craps stardust that i can fly through space on."

Lets just remember the fact that the game is barely 2 months old. 2. damn. months. WoW is 7 years old and they still **** up loot tables as well as PVP. Seriously the "Raid Finder" was the kiss of death for WoW. Also id like to point out that these issues with Illium and the bugs closer to end game could of been addressed if the gosh darn beta testers didn't have Alt fever at level 25. It's still noticeable even now. I make a new toon and there's 150 people in the starting area i go back to Corellia and im lucky to find 20 and 15 of them are AFK.

"Well Bioware should of known its their game they made it they should of known!"

That's not how this works. The whole purpose of a beta invite wasn't so you could brag to your friends it was so that you could bug test and send them comments on what works and what doesn't or what changes you'd like to see.

"Why should we do their job for them?"

Maybe because there too busy building an entire *********** galaxy for you to explore and its easier to just let a few players into the game to play through and send them reports on what works and whats broken.

"Well what about Illium? Illium was a terrible idea. Who thought contested open world PVP zones that offer daily quests was a good idea?"

WoW did. Remember Tol Barad or Wintergrasp?

"But Illium is so unfair to Republic..."

Yup that's the same song and dance the Alliance kiddies did too. Guess what though. Still not Biowares fault. They cant force people to play Republic and if they tried that people would go to a server they could be Imperial on. Fact of the matter is people love being the bad guy in video games.

Seriously though im not saying there isn't anything i would change, but as MMO's go this is a damn good one. I know there's bugs, and bots, and unfair pvp, but the game is only going on 2 months now. WoW has been at this for 7 years and still has all the same issues. It comes with the MMO territory.

Couldn't have said it better myself. I agree with you 100%

As for Founder stats- If they'd offered LOTRO style Founder status- lifetime gameplay (no monthly fees), perks with every new expansion, etc. That might be a compelling reason to pay up front and or stick around. A title is a joke- and a bad joke at that.

What? First off you didnt need to be a founder to get lifetime subs. They offered them time and again sometimes for $199 sometimes for $299. The ONLY thing founders get is a lvl 25 bree steed. Even that is easily obtainable by anyone in the game for a minor amount. There are absolutely 0 perks with each expansion for founders btw. I dont know what LOTRO you are playing but Ive been playing it since the first closed beta in 2006.

This, so much.

The general forums of every MMO is filled with children that complain about everything.

Seriously, BW could send them all bricks of gold and they would complain that gold is too heavy.

that post says he hates the comunity yet his is part of it. not to mention he is crying more in 1 post than most ppl have with multiple posts. ppl complain when stuff dont work its not crying. guess what if ppl didnt complain about it they wouldnt know it was an issue. imagine when 1.1 rolled out and noone said anything about illum but instead just unsub that would be like saying "i don't care about this game so i'm not adding any constructive criticism" and just unsub and be done with it. hate to burst your bubble but all those guys complaining actually care about the game enough to point out its flaws. oh yea and comparing swtor to wow is fail. wows been out for several years. comparing wow to swtor is the equalvilant of comparing wow to ultima online timespan wise