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Laeris
01.23.2012 , 09:52 AM | #91
Quote: Originally Posted by thorizdin View Post
The game has way too many kinds of currencies, social points are one of several that ought to be removed completely. On that note, why exactly do we need 3 different kinds of PvP currency?
So casuals can sit safe and sound in the fleet station and still be able to get good end-game pvp gear via warzone comms and conversions without having to go to Ilum.

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Phaedrynn
01.23.2012 , 09:53 AM | #92
Quote: Originally Posted by Kheld View Post
Yes I agree.

Ive run a lot of FPs since Day 1 of early access & im nowhere near social rank 1 yet (gametime split over various characters).

My friend who adventures with his misses is at Social Rank II already. Its gonna take me months if not years to get there.
Social 1 is all of TEN points. One run of BT and you are Social 1.

Edit: I level with 2 friends, we are low 40s now and I just hit Social V. However, I will admit I was a little shocked/dismayed to see the speeder on the Social vender in Belsavis requires Social VII.

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ChicksDigHarleys
01.23.2012 , 09:55 AM | #93
Quote: Originally Posted by Laeris View Post
The 1 and only way to raise social rank is to farm Black Talon/Esseless repeatedly ad nauseum with a 4 man group.

All the other FPs give you 10-15 points and BT/Ess gives 150-160.
You can probably get 100 per Esseles run with a two man group. No need to wait for four...
You are playing a frickin video game.
You are not hardcore by any reasonable definition.

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Ghaiana
01.23.2012 , 09:55 AM | #94
All soloplayers here? I'm rank 5 in social points, I level with friends, it's really easy to gain social points that way.

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Spymaster
01.23.2012 , 09:59 AM | #95
Quote: Originally Posted by ChicksDigHarleys View Post
TL, DR version: Not sure if serious.
I'm very serious...
lets answer your questions

Quote: Originally Posted by ChicksDigHarleys View Post
It seems the game lacks the tools to have these. What did you have in mind?
Like I said a few posts back, nothing needs to be added TODAY. But I really hope they eventually add tools to the game so that players can host events. SWG had a lot of tools for this, where players could set their own way points in the world and then other players could take part in custom events, parties, races, trivia contests etc.

Quote: Originally Posted by ChicksDigHarleys View Post
cantina mini games How is playing Pazaak being any more social than running a FP together?
How is it not? I've lost count of the number of groups I've been in where people have said littelrely NOTHING to each other. They run through the quest as fast as possible, space bar through the cut scene, and just try to get the whole thing over with. There is really nothing social at all about group based PvE. If you're social in a group, it's because you've decided to be social. You can do that with out a group.

Playing mini games with / against another player is far more social than shooting at NPCs with them.

Quote: Originally Posted by ChicksDigHarleys View Post
visiting other player's in their ships see above
Very easy. Ships already have areas set up like cantinas where mini games can take place. Maybe a co-op type thing where the players can to work together on a space walk to repair the engines. Something cool like that.

Quote: Originally Posted by ChicksDigHarleys View Post
helping players with questions they might have LOL Do you expect CSRs to read every piece of chat on every server to see who is being helpful?!?
No. Give each player 1 or 2 points a day they can reward through chat windows, for whatever they want. Let players post help requests on the auction boards, and when another player answers that request they can earn social points.

It's not that hard really. Why not try to be creative instead of so negative?

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Spymaster
01.23.2012 , 10:15 AM | #96
Quote: Originally Posted by thorizdin View Post
The game has way too many kinds of currencies, social points are one of several that ought to be removed completely. On that note, why exactly do we need 3 different kinds of PvP currency?
Good point.

Maybe even better would be to scrap the whole social system and use that cool looking gear to give crafting a boost.

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Kytea
01.23.2012 , 10:20 AM | #97
Quote: Originally Posted by ChicksDigHarleys View Post
You can probably get 100 per Esseles run with a two man group. No need to wait for four...

+1
Ran Esseles a few times with a friend and got Social II now

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ChicksDigHarleys
01.23.2012 , 10:32 AM | #98
Quote: Originally Posted by Spymaster View Post
How is it not? I've lost count of the number of groups I've been in where people have said littelrely NOTHING to each other. They run through the quest as fast as possible, space bar through the cut scene, and just try to get the whole thing over with. There is really nothing social at all about group based PvE. If you're social in a group, it's because you've decided to be social. You can do that with out a group.

Playing mini games with / against another player is far more social than shooting at NPCs with them.

Nothing about playing cards requires people to be any more social than running a FP, especially when it's with/against the same random people you spacebar through FPs with.

Very easy. Ships already have areas set up like cantinas where mini games can take place. Maybe a co-op type thing where the players can to work together on a space walk to repair the engines. Something cool like that.

This game is lacking so much in the way of features MMOers in 2012 expect, they'd be insane to work on stuff like this instead of, say, bringing more functionality to things like the UI and GTN. File this under "never gonna happen". IMO there would be more demand for customizable interiors than this idea.

No. Give each player 1 or 2 points a day they can reward through chat windows, for whatever they want. Let players post help requests on the auction boards, and when another player answers that request they can earn social points.

Not practical and easily abused. Large guilds can get their members to social V or whatever even faster if you allow people to award social points. Automated systems won't work because it would have to assume anyone answering a "help board" or whatever is actually helpful.

It's not that hard really. Why not try to be creative instead of so negative?
I'm a realist. I don't see the time/money being invested in your ideas in a cookie cutter themepark MMO like TOR. Besides, they have bigger fish to fry than adding spacewalks for social points.
You are playing a frickin video game.
You are not hardcore by any reasonable definition.

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Spymaster
01.23.2012 , 10:44 AM | #99
Quote: Originally Posted by ChicksDigHarleys View Post
Nothing about playing cards requires people to be any more social than running a FP, especially when it's with/against the same random people you spacebar through FPs with.
Frankly, that's nonsense. You're actually sitting there, with the person, doing a social activity. Unlike shooting at NPCs which is not social at all. Sure you can play a mini game and never talk to the other guy, but at least you're doing something social instead of just shooting at / talking to NPCs.

Quote: Originally Posted by ChicksDigHarleys View Post
This game is lacking so much in the way of features MMOers in 2012 expect, they'd be insane to work on stuff like this instead of, say, bringing more functionality to things like the UI and GTN. File this under "never gonna happen". IMO there would be more demand for customizable interiors than this idea.
"Instead of?" When did I say they should add this before fixing the UI???? Or instead of anything else that needs adding? Oh yeah, never.

I really don't care if YOU think it will happen or not, your opinon of what they will or won't do in the future doesn't mean much in regards to what I would like to see in the game. Would this request make the game better? I think so. That's all that matters. I hate when people try to play armchair Dev and shoot down ideas because they don't think it will happen or can't personally figure out how to do it. Who are you exactly?

Quote: Originally Posted by ChicksDigHarleys View Post
Not practical and easily abused. Large guilds can get their members to social V or whatever even faster if you allow people to award social points.
Again... nonsense. A large guild will just run players through Flash points, not waste time giving one player one or two points a day.

Quote: Originally Posted by ChicksDigHarleys View Post
I'm a realist. I don't see the time/money being invested in your ideas in a cookie cutter themepark MMO like TOR. Besides, they have bigger fish to fry than adding spacewalks for social points.
Your negative opinion is noted.

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Spymaster
01.23.2012 , 10:57 AM | #100
Quote: Originally Posted by kytea View Post
+1
ran esseles a few times with a friend and got social ii now
Exploit!!!!!!