Gunslinger is to weak compared to other classes

Soge 1 Chiss Sniper


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Try not targeting tanks. They're tanks, you're not supposed to be able to 3-shot them

How much of that damage is Tracer spam or AoE?

Try a different spec? Lethality, I'm told, is very mobile and requires no cover use

COMPETENT teams will steamroll anyone not in a premade. It's been like this in pretty much every MMO with PvP since PvP was a thing

As for your bashing on my level, I've been playing MMOs for 11 years. 11. If it's happened, I've seen it. Your argument is weak and if you have THESE many issues playing you need to reroll another class

And if you've played to 50 and gotten BM geared and are still whining then you lack any sense at all for not noticing these 'major' issues sooner and rerolling

Saying stuff like this is retarded. This isn't Darkfall or Age of Conan, you can't completely dodge peoples abilities by playing smart. They automatically lock onto you and follow you no matter what, there is no way a level 50 Sniper atm is going to stand toe-to-toe with a level 50 Mercenary and out DPS their Tracer Missile, Rail Shot, Unload combo due to heavy armor mitigation, heals and ranged vs melee stun.

Right now your success as a Sniper completely relies on the brain power of the opposing team. If you leave any class unopposed they are going to destroy you, this isn't just Snipers. If one player, preferably melee, decides that he's going to ruin your day in a WZ you'll do nothing as a Sniper. Literally nothing.

Obviously you cant read either, i said i play lethality because that is the most effective build right now in pvp.

I play mmos for like 11 years too, thats no excuse for coming to this thread and telling me with you lvl 27 sniper (that has no expertise and never played vs competent teams like 50 brackets) to l2p

im not arguing with you any further because you are disqualified

I second your disqualification.

I don't know whats up with the SWTOR PvP crowd, but I suspect that once they start (already seeing balance changes on deck for Ops/Scoundrels) the balance roller-coaster in this game is going to be berserk. I've yet to play a class in this game that I thought was "garbage" and I've ended up playing alot of the worse classes in a long list of MMOs by pure happenstance. Class tweaking and balance is a constant issue in any MMO but at the moment I feel that SWTOR is leagues ahead of where other games were on release and where many games are even now.

If you find yourself getting your *** handed to in PvP, please don't take this the wrong way but you are doing something wrong. Of course not all classes are equal, of course some classes have it harder than others, but you should be able to win atm with any class in game. Some are harder than others, but if you get pretty good you should be able to squash people atm regardless of their class.

Two of my worst examples in recent years:
WoW Paladin - On release this class was worthless in PvP.
AoC Dark Templar - On release the class had little ability to do damage, was heavily dependent on gear, had a terrible melee range and several of its abilities flat out didn't work.

Most effective
Not the only effective build
And the simple fact you 'disqualify' me because my Sniper is 27 and you choose to ignore the fact I play 50 PvP on my main smacks of elitism which makes your entire argument null and void dear friend
FYI, every class has a 'most effective' build
You have yet to illustrate WHY level 27 is 'disqualified' in your argument

Okay i speak more slowly for you.

Cover 1 GCD
Hunker down 1 GCD
Speed Relic 1 GCD
Blackmarket Mods 1 GCD

(The enemy hasn't received any damage until now)
Insert Random Stims/Buffs if needed

Instant Charged Burst 1 GCD (it's buggy sometimes but with the speed relic that doesn't matter) 2k+ Damage
Instant Trickshot 1 GCD. 4k+ Damage
nearly Instant Speed shot 1,7 Secs (now target starts moving) 3-4K+ Damage
Reset Speed shot 1 GCD (target still moving)
nearly Instant Speed shot 1,7 GCD 3-4K+ Damage
Instant Quick shot 1 GCD 4-5K+ Damage

Damage done in round about 8 seconds 16-19K against T2 at last. Everything melts this way.

If hes far away, he can LOS, i'am not denying that.
If hes near you, you just melt him away

Best rotation ever? No!

just an example for the immense Damage burst you can do on a single target.

Edit: Getting a second chance for a speed shot is rare, i won't deny that, better make some other move, but one speed shot is nice for nearly fnihsing and sending a quick shot to finish.

Cover blows with all it's bugs, but saying that we do low damage is a flat out lie... We do awesome damage and particularly awesome burst, I dare say that we have the best burst in the game after operatives and after 1.1.1 we may end up actually having the best burst damage period.

59 Valor BTW


To the above poster: Entrench does not trigger GCD, Relics and Adrenals do not trigger GCD, Target Acquired does not trigger GCD...

When you pop Explosive Probe first, then relics and adrenals, this way you won't lose any DPS time.

Rapid Fire does not trigger GCD, either.

Basically, with Target Acquired you can land all of the following at 4 seconds mark: Explosive Probe, Ambush, Snipe... Just like you say, it's tons of damage and thanks to entrench it can only be blocked with LoS or some +defense CD or Diversion if a target is a Sniper that is fast enough to react.

I have to agree that you can deal nice damage but how much damage is your opponent doing in 4 GCD ? And any smart player is LOS if he sees you hunker down