The Expertise stat has to go...

they just need to add expertise to the lower lvl pvp sets ~_~

Then they need a reward system for those who pvp. Some of us want to play competitive as some like to do with pve.
I dont mind this idea either but atleast a reward for it.

Exactly, it should be crap for pve, same way around. As it is now, it isnt.

Remove the healing and damage buff from expertise. Expertise is becoming such a retarded stat because it clearly caters to healers giving them an extra 10% or more buff to out play trauma and healing debuffs and scales the more they have.

I agree with the OP's logic.

Well no matter if expertise is a "problem" or not...

...what most people want is a more level playing field in WZ's - gearwise. If it's the early 50 gear that needs buff, expertise that needs nerf, WZ's needing gear bolster....that's all academic.

Even PvP = more fun PvP

The philosophy that "i spent more time than you online therefore I have the right to a reverse handicap against new players" is imo bs.

Skilled players however, deserve to win...but then again they would on a level playingfield.


in open world it is seldom even fights anyway so I think "PvP-stats" and gear scaling have a bit different meaning there.

But WZ's should be almost even gearscale wise.

As a healer i picked up the battlemaster set took awhile but since at the time not many groups were running pve stuff all i had was pvp. Now i can easily heal just as much as some of the players that managed to knock out pve end game content. I might not have as much dmg resist but if the healer is taking dmg in pve your doin it wrong.

Expertise is in the game for 1 reason to stop people who raid from dominating pvp its not a hard thing to understand.


and for all those who are gonna say then make the pvp gear the same stats at pve gear im going to say, then there would be no reason to raid people would just get pvp gear cause its alot easier to join a wz then to get a group together and when they were all decked out they would run the last raid and finish it easily thats why the dont make pvp gear the same...

Making it so someone in full PvP gear can do well in T1 raids but will need better PvE gear to progress in PvE is ok because it encourages linear progression. There is no linear progression in 3 war zones and Illum. No one would object to expertise if it was like an FPS ranking system where better players fight better opponents as they progress. It's simply a grind war. Why should I be able to faceroll someone because they spent time with the wife/kids/gf rather than grinding for a stat advantage, you don't even need to win the war zones you fight in to get this gear just put in the hours.

83 pages later...and the point is still:

"I raid, and want to make that why I pwn at pvp...not my time spent as a pvp'er."



NEWS FLASH:
Whether you have expertise or not, you will still get obliterated as a new 50. B/C if you leave the pvp'ers no choice but to raid in order to up their game GUESS WHAT: THEY WILL!

So, quit QQing about something that let's people enjoy the game as they see fit. If you chose to invest your time in a similar manner, you'd already be enjoying its benefits.

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