Let's compare early WoW with early TOR

You obviously weren't there at release, it's clear since you're citing Wikipedia articles instead of speaking from experience.

Let me tell you about just a few problems in the early days of World of Warcraft:

• In the early days, you couldn't loot anything without fear of getting your character stuck. Yes that's right, looting could cause your character to become permanently stuck.
  
• There were no Battlegrounds of any kind. One spot became the meeting place for all PVP, that place being Tarren Mill. God help anyone trying to quest in that area, and the lag...
  
  
• Flight paths were not truly connected routes. If you had to fly somewhere that required connecting flight paths, you had to manually select each one as you made the journey. No walking away to grab a drink or use the bathroom... just sit there and watch the same redundant flight path, over and over and over.
  
• PVP rewards? Hahah, yea right.
  
• Lack of end game content? There were no raid bosses, no challenging end game content. No Onyxia or Molten Core, just standing around in your capital city dueling other players of the same faction.
  
• Server stability. You think the server crash maintenance is bad here? This was a cake walk compared to games like WoW and SWG. WoW's servers were down so much they started refunding people for all the downtime.
  
• UI Customization? There was barely anything at release, people waited for months to for a decent selection of customization choices. And the stuff that finally came was from 3rd party sources. Blizzard didn't start adding their own customization until much later.

My point is most of you people complaining have no idea what you're talking about when you compare WoW to SWTOR. You go and join a game that's had the last 8 years to finely tune every aspect of it's game play, and then complain because SWTOR isn't there yet. Anyone who played WoW from the very beginning knows it is a drastically different game than it was in 2004. Those of you who don't prove this, by showing your ignorance is spreading such nonsense.

Everyone has a right to criticize this game, but let's try and use factual information when making claims, shall we? You know why the Bug List and Features List is so much longer on World of Warcraft patches from 2004? Because they had more issues that needed to be addressed immediately.

I played WoW on release, and although it did have some bugs it didn't have nearly as many problems as SWTOR does.

You can't because they were both released in different markets with different expectations.

If you want to say that generally all MMO's that come out have problems, then fine. But don't try to justify Biowares failures by pointing out how other MMO's made mistakes at their launch, too

It makes me laugh at the blind fanbois that like to compare this game to a game from 7 years ago. What other product on the present day consumer market competes with a simular product from 7 years ago?? LOLOLOLOLOLOL. How can people be this moronic?

i love people who subscribe only to post on forums how much this game sucks even more.

i love people who subscribe only to post on forums how much this game sucks even more.