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Gunslinger is to weak compared to other classes

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Gunslinger is to weak compared to other classes

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Jiav
01.23.2012 , 06:26 AM | #141
Quote: Originally Posted by Orangerascal View Post
You can ask my server, just how bad I am. Let's put it this way. I have enough confidence to put my toon and guild in my signature .

I play on best server in Europe btw.


Protip: On a 15000 HP toon. That shield increased their effective HP to 20000. That's like giving the whole party 5000 free HP's. This is huge in PVP and better than taunts or heals.

Plant this on the key hot spots. Like I said ... most people don't even use the ability.
I don't care what most people do. Most people are not even 50 by now, most people think that raiding is hard in this game. Most people can't even interrupt a 3 second cast. I don't give a **** about them.
Yet, you still miss the point, oh the best server in europe? Really? Wow, you must be ranked #1 with 2900 elo. Oh, wait. Nvm wrong game, there is no elo here. And no way to proof your point

Quote: Originally Posted by AlbertXP View Post
Theres your problem. If you are serious about pvp you kinda have to be biochem.

I have 600 expertise, full champion. Not hit 60 yet and i hit 5.1k ambush on a level 50 TROOPER. aka heavy armor.
With surge adrenal i get 97% crit damage and i also replaced mods it my gear for more crit and surge.

Also now i replaced my crit/surge relic with power because i get max surge from adrenal anyway.
Well, using stim every 3 minute to hit one guy with 5k, doesn#t make the class useful.

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Orangerascal
01.23.2012 , 06:31 AM | #142
Quote: Originally Posted by Jiav View Post
I don't care what most people do. Most people are not even 50 by now, most people think that raiding is hard in this game. Most people can't even interrupt a 3 second cast. I don't give a **** about them.
Yet, you still miss the point, oh the best server in europe? Really? Wow, you must be ranked #1 with 2900 elo. Oh, wait. Nvm wrong game, there is no elo here. And no way to proof your point
Like I said, my name and signature are on my profile ... yours is not. Tells me you like to hide behind forum anonymity.

Pro-tip: Ad hominem attacks are for people that have no valid arguments.
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Jiav
01.23.2012 , 06:42 AM | #143
Quote: Originally Posted by Orangerascal View Post
Like I said, my name and signature are on my profile ... yours is not. Tells me you like to hide behind forum anonymity.

Pro-tip: Ad hominem attacks are for people that have no valid arguments.
Aslong as there is no armory, i can write anything in my sig that i want. Doesn't even make sense. But only for you.

Jiav- Sniper- Challenge Accepted - German server, V60+, 2nd level 50 sniper/gunslinger on this server. Cleared all HM flashpoints empire realm first.
Cleared several raids empire realm first. NM soa, bonetrasher down, palace also clear.
Blablabalbal. Big deal,.

Also to stay on topic, i will put your ego aside, BS is not better than the ability to taunt twice each minute or to x support whenever and wherever you want.


BS is a highly situational skill, which can be godlike or a total waste on a 3 minute cd. In a zerg situation it is good, idd. But if that skill is your only argument about gunslingers beeing fine, you even worse than i thought 10mins ago.

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Bulivyf
01.23.2012 , 06:47 AM | #144
Agreed.

Sniper/Gunslingers are awful. Bioware thought in their infinite wisdom that making a ranged class that to do any appreciable damage has to stand still and channel 1.5-3s abilities was a good idea.

They were wrong.




Roots make us unable to go into cover. - Idiotic.

Can be Force Choked through Entrench. - What? Either a bug, or awful design.

Cover randomly makes you roll into cover you don't want to roll into. - Annoying/Frustrating.

Talent tree synergy is awful compared to other classes. - This class was tacked on as an afterthought I don't think any thought went into the design compared to classes like Mercenary that synergize so perfectly compared to us that it's pathetic.

Gear set bonuses are complete garbage. - Again, compare our 2 and 4 piece set bonuses to an Arsenal Mercenary gear set. It's pathetic. 15% crit on Tracer Missile which is the spam ability? He-he-heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

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Rebelatto
01.23.2012 , 06:49 AM | #145
I have no problem at all with my gunslinger.

My problems ended after I binded the hard cover ( shift + F ) in a easy pressed key ( Q ).

Since it does not trigger the global cooldown and isn't bugged like the normal cover I'm pretty like a commando/merc, all I have to do is to press Q right before my actual shoot. I'm now very mobile and my shoots hurts more than a merc, people can't interrupt me and I've got a strong def. buff with cover screen

But a couple days ago I changed to dirty fighting... AMAZING, seeing people melting trying to reach you is priceless.

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Jiav
01.23.2012 , 06:52 AM | #146
Quote: Originally Posted by Rebelatto View Post
But a couple days ago I changed to dirty fighting... AMAZING, seeing people melting trying to reach you is priceless.
Yeah, once people will start to l2p, your dots will be dispelled and that spec is utterly worthless.

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Orangerascal
01.23.2012 , 06:52 AM | #147
Quote: Originally Posted by Jiav View Post
Aslong as there is no armory, i can write anything in my sig that i want. Doesn't even make sense. But only for you.
I don't know if I should laugh or cry that you mention armory.

Quote: Originally Posted by Jiav View Post
Jiav- Sniper- Challenge Accepted - German server, V60+, 2nd level 50 sniper/gunslinger on this server. Cleared all HM flashpoints empire realm first.

Cleared several raids empire realm first. NM soa, bonetrasher down, palace also clear.
Blablabalbal. Big deal,.
I guess I'll cry. It's sad you even mention pve in a pvp forum. PVE are gear checks in this game as none of the encounters take a hint of coordination.


Quote: Originally Posted by Jiav View Post
Also to stay on topic, i will put your ego aside, BS is not better than the ability to taunt twice each minute or to x support whenever and wherever you want.

BS is a highly situational skill, which can be godlike or a total waste on a 3 minute cd. In a zerg situation it is good, idd. But if that skill is your only argument about gunslingers beeing fine, you even worse than i thought 10mins ago.
Are you really saying that this is the only skill your gun slinger has. How about an AOE Mez? How about great aoe damage? Like I said you want a 'swiss army knife' of a class that just will never exists for balancing reasons.
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LordSemaj
01.23.2012 , 06:52 AM | #148
Snipers work fine, it's people setting up in plain visible spots that needs "nerfing". It's lunacy to try and snipe people where they can see you just by turning their head. The best snipers who cause loads of damage are the ones who setup in hard to reach places or out of the field of view. Play smarter and group with a team, let the other classes protect you. Solo sniper getting beaten on by some melee is naturally going to have problems... that's why you queue as a group.
You can try to explain PVP to the ignorant... but you cannot Force them to understand it.

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Bulivyf
01.23.2012 , 06:54 AM | #149
Quote: Originally Posted by LordSemaj View Post
Snipers work fine, it's people setting up in plain visible spots that needs "nerfing". It's lunacy to try and snipe people where they can see you just by turning their head. The best snipers who cause loads of damage are the ones who setup in hard to reach places or out of the field of view. Play smarter and group with a team, let the other classes protect you. Solo sniper getting beaten on by some melee is naturally going to have problems... that's why you queue as a group.
Because no one in this game has a charge and Snipers are the only ranged class.

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FuriCuri
01.23.2012 , 06:55 AM | #150
Quote: Originally Posted by LordSemaj View Post
Snipers work fine, it's people setting up in plain visible spots that needs "nerfing". It's lunacy to try and snipe people where they can see you just by turning their head. The best snipers who cause loads of damage are the ones who setup in hard to reach places or out of the field of view. Play smarter.
Our top tier 6 and 7 Sharpshooter skill tree abilities are focused on Speed Shot skill which firing channeling pew-pew shots giving basically everyone and their grandmas a hint "go kill that sniper - he's over there!" Not to mention it deals crap damage and no burst whatsoever.
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