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Gunslinger is to weak compared to other classes

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Orangerascal
01.23.2012 , 05:57 AM | #131
Quote: Originally Posted by Jiav View Post
Toping damage is not an indicator for a good and useful class. Every class can top damage...
So you mean abilities like 25% damage reduction to the group is not useful? Probably not because the only person I see using it is my guildie .
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FuriCuri
01.23.2012 , 05:57 AM | #132
Quote: Originally Posted by Orangerascal View Post
Really who breaks 600k without a sweat. I'm always in games with your guild and I'm always top damage. I've broken 600k once and I'm pretty well geared.
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No big deal for sage. Try to make at least 500k on gunslinger.
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Orangerascal
01.23.2012 , 06:04 AM | #133
Quote: Originally Posted by FuriCuri View Post
http://funkyimg.com/viewer.php?img=/..._15_557765.jpg

No big deal for sage. Try to make at least 500k on gunslinger.
If it wasn't a big deal, that's why he SS'd and sent it to everyone. Hell you're not even in that game and your posting it. It must have been impressive if you can't find a ss with you in it. Also that SS is pre 1.1 where getting that damage was much easier.

Also if it was so consistent you would have a lot more ss's. I play on ToFN and I know what the numbers look like. Your blasé attitude that this occurs frequently is a rather poor argument.

To answer your question: Arsanist, Lopez and Benki can do 500k. Maybe you should ask them how to do it because I'm not familiar with gunslingers.
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Kaptain_Kabul
01.23.2012 , 06:08 AM | #134
Quote: Originally Posted by Orangerascal View Post
So you mean abilities like 25% damage reduction to the group is not useful? Probably not because the only person I see using it is my guildie .
Yeah thats some observation i had,too. I pop my AE shield in grp fights everytime the cooldown is finished. But i rarly see other using it.

it's used so rarly that people in your warzone sometimes think it#s an enemy AoE and run out. No Kidding!

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FuriCuri
01.23.2012 , 06:12 AM | #135
Quote: Originally Posted by Orangerascal View Post
If it wasn't a big deal, that's why he SS'd and sent it to everyone. Hell you're not even in that game and your posting it. It must have been impressive if you can't find a ss with you in it.

Also if it was so consistent you would have a lot more ss's. I play on ToFN and I know what the numbers look like. Your blasé attitude that this occurs frequently is a rather poor argument.

To answer your question: Arsanist, Lopez and Benki can do 500k. Maybe you should ask them how to do it because I'm not familiar with gunslingers.
I never go aoe for a big numbers (unlike those slingers) - my goal is to kill target I need to in the time he and his healers could not even react.
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Jiav
01.23.2012 , 06:14 AM | #136
Quote: Originally Posted by Orangerascal View Post
So you mean abilities like 25% damage reduction to the group is not useful? Probably not because the only person I see using it is my guildie .
On 3 minute cooldown? Oh yeah, kinda useful in a high mobile battleground. Since no one of your allies can get kicked out of it. Oh yeah or the battle just shifts. That skill kinda makes up for the lack of support, heal, shields, taunt, [...]

For the "top damage makes a good class guys".

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AlbertXP
01.23.2012 , 06:20 AM | #137
Quote: Originally Posted by Jiav View Post
I am in full champions/few bm pieces, and i NEVER crit a EVEN GEARED sorc/sage for over 5k with ambush, even with expertise buff. Yet, i am not biochem and don't have power or surge pot.
Theres your problem. If you are serious about pvp you kinda have to be biochem.

I have 600 expertise, full champion. Not hit 60 yet and i hit 5.1k ambush on a level 50 TROOPER. aka heavy armor.
With surge adrenal i get 97% crit damage and i also replaced mods it my gear for more crit and surge.

Also now i replaced my crit/surge relic with power because i get max surge from adrenal anyway.

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Orangerascal
01.23.2012 , 06:20 AM | #138
Quote: Originally Posted by Jiav View Post
On 3 minute cooldown? Oh yeah, kinda useful in a high mobile battleground. Since no one of your allies can get kicked out of it. Oh yeah or the battle just shifts. That skill kinda makes up for the lack of support, heal, shields, taunt, [...]
Ahh you wan't the mystical all in one 'swiss army knife' calling. I see now ... good luck with that.

If you can't see the usefulness of the shield, there is nothing I can say to you that will make you a better player. I'm not even going to try.
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Jiav
01.23.2012 , 06:23 AM | #139
Quote: Originally Posted by Orangerascal View Post
Ahh you wan't the mystical all in one 'swiss army knife' calling. I see now ... good luck with that.

If you can't see the usefulness of the shield, there is nothing I can say to you that will make you a better player. I'm not even going to try.
You don't have to, i don't take advice from baddies anyway.

Not to mention you missed the point. Is it useful? Sure it is, is it useful as as a taunt spamming hybrid, no it isnt. Is it useful as a x healing/shielding damage sorc? No, it isnt.

Well, not going to try to educate you. Casuals like you, have their own league.

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Orangerascal
01.23.2012 , 06:24 AM | #140
Quote: Originally Posted by Jiav View Post
You don't have to, i don't take advice from baddies anyway.
You can ask my server, just how bad I am. Let's put it this way. I have enough confidence to put my toon and guild in my signature . Unlike some people.

I play on best server in Europe btw. But good job with the insult, something totally irrelevenat to the discussion.

Quote: Originally Posted by Jiav View Post
Not to mention you missed the point. Is it useful? Sure it is, is it useful as as a taunt spamming hybrid, no it isnt. Is it useful as a x healing/shielding damage sorc? No, it isnt.

Well, not going to try to educate you. Casuals have their own league.
Protip: On a 15000 HP toon. That shield increased their effective HP to 20000. That's like giving the whole party 5000 free HP's. This is huge in PVP and better than taunts or heals.

Plant this on the key hot spots. Like I said ... most people don't even use the ability.
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