[POLL] Damage Meters

seriously, where the hell is rate thread? I just see post reply.

You have to post a reply to see the rate at the bottom.

No group wipes on a boss in an Operation for 2 hours just because of one person. Flashpoints can be wiped because of only one person, but only if that person is a bad Tank or Healer.
This kind of attitude is exactly what the poster you responded to is disgusted by. People will see someone doing 10% less damage than someone else, and immediately blame them for any problems, usually resulting in a kick.

While it's very true that you should blame the user, not the tool... certain tools act as ENABLERS of horrible behavior. Real-time meters are one of those. Personally, when I see group leaders kick someone for being slightly less "par" than another, I put the leader on my /ignore list then leave the group as well. Unfortunately... it makes you fill up your ignore list REALLY fast.

posting for rating.

this is my third reply >_<

And with logs people will create Out of Game Parsers why can't these be enough?
because a lot of the people crying for the in-game meter don't really understand how to run such programs and would not be able to f@p their epeen as readily.

Again, the abuse of such tools by tools that don't understand game mechanics thinking that number is the end all be all of skill, is why i say no.

Never said I can't "pull my own weight". When I wrote "100dps" I wanted to pick a small number to emphasize, that there are people being nit-picky, and that insult you for every small and minor mistake you make. There's people in MMOs, who will monitor everything you do, and comment on it, even when it's not neccessary. In other MMOS - ok let's just say WoW, people often blame the dps, when the problem lies elsewhere. And of course there's so many situations, where dps needs to be interpreted correctly, like what are the circumstances. This game should not be about whether your dps is 10% higher than the other people in your group. I enjoyed it very much in Lotro. Nobody really cares about dps. If something doesn't work, you try again and don't point fingers at people for not doing the right amount of damage, when the problem most likely is bad coordination. It's much more free and much more fun.

BUT, like I said, I have no problem with everybody being able to monitor their own dps, stats or whatever.

And one of those times you replied you should have scrolled to the bottom of the page before selecting "Submit reply" where you see a dropdown box that allows you to rate the post 1-5 and says "If you like, you can add a score for this thread."

ah thanks, never even knew that existed XD

You do more dmg/healing under 2 conditions:

1)More skill
2)More gear

You can be as skill as you want to be, but you ain't gonna beat somebody in Rakata gear with 50's leveling gear. That being said, if 2 players with same gears, the one doing more damage obviously is more skilled (under MOST conditions).

I'm not saying people who don't want a DM are all bad at the game, what I'm saying is that they shouldn't be afraid to have a DM. Without a DM, nobody knows if they are doing good damage or bad. It is also used to evaluate which spec works better. No matter how much they balance the game, a specific spec is going to be better than another one, it is as simple as that.