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It's time to address the imbalance issue BioWare

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It's time to address the imbalance issue BioWare

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Gunfox
01.22.2012 , 09:11 PM | #141
I just wanted to pvp a little on my Jedi... The queue took an age so I did a /who 50... 19 lvl 50 players online, most of them idling on the fleet.
Ok, go check the imp side with my lowlvl BH... 93 lvl 50s online, many of them being in Huttball.

So, could the imp side please stop complaining about queues and Huttball now? At least you can do pvp whenever you want, while we don't even get 10 players to even start a WZ.
I died a little inside and logged off...

http://i.imgur.com/lxniC.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/y8ndx.jpg

Same Server obv.

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venjinze
01.22.2012 , 09:27 PM | #142
this thread has to be a joke, because Empire is supposedly stalling your progression in PvP you want them to give you freebies? thats your answer? you should probably roll on a PvE server if so. get off your butt, get a group and go earn some valor, its competitive and fun, much more so than crying for handouts. they've already stated that people who abused acquiring valor in ilum will have the majority of those points deducted, thats bad enough considering Republic were getting outplayed and instead of fighting back came here to ask for freebies.
I'm a beast.

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Hejjin
01.22.2012 , 09:31 PM | #143
Quote: Originally Posted by venjinze View Post
this thread has to be a joke, because Empire is supposedly stalling your progression in PvP you want them to give you freebies? thats your answer? you should probably roll on a PvE server if so. get off your butt, get a group and go earn some valor, its competitive and fun, much more so than crying for handouts. they've already stated that people who abused acquiring valor in ilum will have the majority of those points deducted, thats bad enough considering Republic were getting outplayed and instead of fighting back came here to ask for freebies.
Hmmm

Outplayed? Ah you mean they did not have the ability to overcome the massive population imbalance?

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Gunfox
01.22.2012 , 09:33 PM | #144
Quote: Originally Posted by venjinze View Post
this thread has to be a joke, because Empire is supposedly stalling your progression in PvP you want them to give you freebies? thats your answer? you should probably roll on a PvE server if so. get off your butt, get a group and go earn some valor, its competitive and fun, much more so than crying for handouts. they've already stated that people who abused acquiring valor in ilum will have the majority of those points deducted, thats bad enough considering Republic were getting outplayed and instead of fighting back came here to ask for freebies.
1 Rep facing 4-5 Imps... Clearly outplayed, you are a genius Sir. I bet you're playing imp.

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RemyDMartin
01.22.2012 , 09:36 PM | #145
Quote: Originally Posted by Biz-Lock View Post
Completely agree. Ilum should have a population cap for each faction, so there's at least a chance you can get the numbers to match what the opponents have, perhaps even a ratio cap that starts after a certain threshold of total players is hit.

Also, as much as I'd like to see something that attempts to in some way fix the faction population imbalance... Simply making the republic not suck would be a good start.

Bland Story.
Bland Aesthetics.
Bland Ability Effects.

Why would someone choose to shower their opponent with pebbles, when they can blast them with lightning?

I used to play Republic, and decided to try a Sith Juggernaut simply because I think they look awesome in the armor progression videos. I instantly fell in love with the story, the voice acting, the environment... my 32 Commando has been shelved ever since.

Maybe if they actually gave players the kind of choice we're used to in previous Bioware RPG's. I shouldn't be forced to use a certain lightsaber type because of my class, just like how you could use force lightning in KOTOR 1 and 2 regardless of your dark/light side.

i'll stop rambling now...
The problem with this like pretty much all of the replies explaining "why there are more empire players" is this is an opinion. Opinions are great, but also like they saying goes "Opinions are like *** holes, everybody has one but usually they are full of ****" or something like that...

I play PvP Republic Trooper Vanguard and Jedi Counselor ... while, yes I do not wear my "condom hat" visually. I do wear my entire fully decked out Trooper Outfit looking like a pimp. Bounty Hunters be looking like rip off Bobba Fetts while I be rocking the original Clone Trooper styles... Opinion. I enjoy my troopers look more than most of my other toons. Opinion. I like throwing random junk including (which still has me laughing out loud) the droid i manifested out of nowhere! ... Lightning... pfft. I'll take my "pebbles" ty.

Now, I do love flame throwers and I do love rockets. But I also love plasma volts, and I also love grenade launching. Yeah, *********** Grenade launching!

Admittedly they should (and I have 100% faith will) work out the kinks on animation times but that is what the new "global cool down" is all about they are reworking times. Sure it's annoying but once you (provided you are a person of skill) get used to it and "oh, dear lord" adapt (what real PvP is about) it's not so bad. And from a republic side of things...my BH expanded CD's made my Vanguards delays look good aka "balanced". Opinion.

So How's this for "constructive" OP? ... all of you need to consider this is a new born game and nothing is EVER going to fit your "ideas" of "perfection" especially when people like you seriously make the republic look less fun to play (because nobody like to play with blowhards who are "always" right [a sad sign of how your team work ethics must be])

So, I'll keep pimping it with my Trooper and you can all enjoy your useless complaining about things that will eventually be fixed...weather or not you have the patience for.

Oh yeah, and so far Havoc Squad has a much cooler story line than "the Great Hunt". Opinion.
Old Woman:"I sense great conflict in your heart. It is by no mere chance we met. The force is at work."
Remy D:"And what of it? You Jedi are all the same, self righteous.Yet, one blaster shot and you still bleed;just like the rest of us."

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HaibaneRenmai
01.22.2012 , 09:46 PM | #146
I can't remember if it was Rift or Aion, but one of those two had a system in place at launch where if the population balance became greater than 52-48 or something like that it would lock down character creation for the larger race. I'm loving the leveling stories and pve stuff but it just baffles me how Bioware didn't stea.. err copy ideas that work from the other top tier mmos that came before it.

I also agree that Troopers are the only class on the Republic side that clearly looks cooler than the BH counterpart, the Death from Above advantage is unfortunate but my trooper is only for pve so whatever.

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pawestman
01.23.2012 , 01:26 AM | #147
Quote: Originally Posted by RemyDMartin View Post
The problem with this like pretty much all of the replies explaining "why there are more empire players" is this is an opinion. Opinions are great, but also like they saying goes "Opinions are like *** holes, everybody has one but usually they are full of ****" or something like that...

I play PvP Republic Trooper Vanguard and Jedi Counselor ... while, yes I do not wear my "condom hat" visually. I do wear my entire fully decked out Trooper Outfit looking like a pimp. Bounty Hunters be looking like rip off Bobba Fetts while I be rocking the original Clone Trooper styles... Opinion. I enjoy my troopers look more than most of my other toons. Opinion. I like throwing random junk including (which still has me laughing out loud) the droid i manifested out of nowhere! ... Lightning... pfft. I'll take my "pebbles" ty.

Now, I do love flame throwers and I do love rockets. But I also love plasma volts, and I also love grenade launching. Yeah, *********** Grenade launching!

Admittedly they should (and I have 100% faith will) work out the kinks on animation times but that is what the new "global cool down" is all about they are reworking times. Sure it's annoying but once you (provided you are a person of skill) get used to it and "oh, dear lord" adapt (what real PvP is about) it's not so bad. And from a republic side of things...my BH expanded CD's made my Vanguards delays look good aka "balanced". Opinion.

So How's this for "constructive" OP? ... all of you need to consider this is a new born game and nothing is EVER going to fit your "ideas" of "perfection" especially when people like you seriously make the republic look less fun to play (because nobody like to play with blowhards who are "always" right [a sad sign of how your team work ethics must be])

So, I'll keep pimping it with my Trooper and you can all enjoy your useless complaining about things that will eventually be fixed...weather or not you have the patience for.

Oh yeah, and so far Havoc Squad has a much cooler story line than "the Great Hunt". Opinion.
Excuse me? I didn't make Republic less fun to play, BioWare did. That is why we are in this predicament. Yes, Trooper looks cool. Unfortunately, it's the only one.

I unsubscribed not because of the issues, but because I don't want to get burned out. Two friends get the game in two weeks, so I'm taking a break while I wait. The problem is, there are multiple MMOs out there that are of quality. If BioWare makes some solid changes, I'll automatically sign up and encourage my friends to buy the game. If they don't, we'll be playing something else until they do.

Either way, I will be playing in the future. It isn't enjoyable playing on Republic right (at least for me). So I'll come back when the dust settles and everything balances out.

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DarthNemis
01.23.2012 , 04:46 AM | #148
Quote: Originally Posted by venjinze View Post
this thread has to be a joke, because Empire is supposedly stalling your progression in PvP you want them to give you freebies? thats your answer? you should probably roll on a PvE server if so. get off your butt, get a group and go earn some valor, its competitive and fun, much more so than crying for handouts. they've already stated that people who abused acquiring valor in ilum will have the majority of those points deducted, thats bad enough considering Republic were getting outplayed and instead of fighting back came here to ask for freebies.
Dude their is just not enough republics on some servers. We need to create incentives for people to reroll and balance the populations. Maybe on your server the republic and emp are balanced. Its not balanced on 90% of servers though.

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GeLopez
01.23.2012 , 09:27 AM | #149
Republic is noticeably dwindling down and giving up on my server, and my server is the biggest PVP server.
Lopez - Jedi Sage @ The Fatman

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Vlacke
01.23.2012 , 09:30 AM | #150
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthNemis View Post
Dude their is just not enough republics on some servers. We need to create incentives for people to reroll and balance the populations. Maybe on your server the republic and emp are balanced. Its not balanced on 90% of servers though.
Agreed 100%.

Incentives are the way to go.

New race for the Republic:

- Togruta
- Kel'Dor
- Nautolan
- Wookie


Any one of these races would help in increasing interest in the faction.

- Yoda's race would be a killer even though it probably wont happen.

The option to play that certain little green (gray, whatever color ) fellow would put a huge dent in the Empire numbers.