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It's time to address the imbalance issue BioWare

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It's time to address the imbalance issue BioWare

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RemyDMartin
01.22.2012 , 08:00 PM | #131
Quote: Originally Posted by pawestman View Post
Good thing you're not a developer. Your game would die instantly.
Now whose making "***-sumptions" ... I agree with the guy you disagreed with. You obviously are yet another complaining republic who can't understand why things are not automatically what you want when you want the way you want...because of people like you we will have unnecessary "nerfing" which leads to even more ****** game play...and then you will quit because it's still not the perfection that are your "ideas" ... jeeze now I am thinking about rolling Empire just because of you. What server are you on?

BTW my server seems to be balancing out day by day.

Well, I a done...soon I will wake the monster that is moderation / censorship and that's never fun. "add something productive"

Here is my productive comment "Quit". wait a few months while playing another game which has more of what you declare is "mandatory balance"...

Jeeze and I rolled Republic for the challenge...
Old Woman:"I sense great conflict in your heart. It is by no mere chance we met. The force is at work."
Remy D:"And what of it? You Jedi are all the same, self righteous.Yet, one blaster shot and you still bleed;just like the rest of us."

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zomgprophett
01.22.2012 , 08:02 PM | #132
Quote: Originally Posted by RemyDMartin View Post
Now whose making "***-sumptions" ... I agree with the guy you disagreed with. You obviously are yet another complaining republic who can't understand why things are not automatically what you want when you want the way you want...because of people like you we will have unnecessary "nerfing" which leads to even more ****** game play...and then you will quit because it's still not the perfection that are your "ideas" ... jeeze now I am thinking about rolling Empire just because of you. What server are you on?

BTW my server seems to be balancing out day by day.

Well, I a done...soon I will wake the monster that is moderation / censorship and that's never fun. "add something productive"

Here is my productive comment "Quit". wait a few months while playing another game which has more of what you declare is "mandatory balance"...

Jeeze and I rolled Republic for the challenge...
Couldn't have said it better myself. +1.

Edit: To post something a bit more constructive as to avoid just being marked as a troll or censored for not bringing anything to the discussion, some of us enjoy the challenge that imbalance brings. I personally like being on the underdog side, which is why I play Rep.

Earlier today some friends and I were on Tatt, we gathered a Ops group and raided the Imp Mandalorian base and took it over. We did this with 9 people, and were outnumbered by almost double that. Of course, we had to avoid the level 50 guards at the speeder port, but that wasn't hard as those are the only 50 guards there. Every other guard is 30. We kicked the crap out of them for a good 2 hours and it was fun as hell, AND we were outnumbered. You don't need to be endgame to enjoy PvP, or anything of the sort.

Balance will happen with time. Stop rushing to conclusions.

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Hanselmugatu
01.22.2012 , 08:04 PM | #133
Quote: Originally Posted by pawestman View Post
Especially since even the slowest leveler is 50 at this point.

Quit making dumb arguments that don't hold any weight. As for re-rolling, I don't want to make the imbalance worse than it already is, but I know common sense isn't your strong suit.

I am not at 50 yet and I was in pre-release...

I do have 3 alts lvl 20 or lower, and I pvp. I just want to enjoy the game and take it all in.

I feel like maybe you are just stirring the pot to get a reaction out of people as you take a massive cry baby dump on anyone who decides to disagree with you in any way.

If you are serious, when you rage quit can I have your stuff?
I dont see why or how people can compare this game to World of Warcraft. To me, World of Warcraft is the Michael Jackson of mmo's. It's sold millions yet it's really not that good, it mostly attracts little boys, and it's dead.

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Biz-Lock
01.22.2012 , 08:14 PM | #134
Quote: Originally Posted by GeLopez View Post
Kind of weird the OP doesn't include introducing faction population caps to Ilum, considering that's the most sensible solution.
Completely agree. Ilum should have a population cap for each faction, so there's at least a chance you can get the numbers to match what the opponents have, perhaps even a ratio cap that starts after a certain threshold of total players is hit.

Also, as much as I'd like to see something that attempts to in some way fix the faction population imbalance... Simply making the republic not suck would be a good start.

Bland Story.
Bland Aesthetics.
Bland Ability Effects.

Why would someone choose to shower their opponent with pebbles, when they can blast them with lightning?

I used to play Republic, and decided to try a Sith Juggernaut simply because I think they look awesome in the armor progression videos. I instantly fell in love with the story, the voice acting, the environment... my 32 Commando has been shelved ever since.

Maybe if they actually gave players the kind of choice we're used to in previous Bioware RPG's. I shouldn't be forced to use a certain lightsaber type because of my class, just like how you could use force lightning in KOTOR 1 and 2 regardless of your dark/light side.

i'll stop rambling now...
Indicted!

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Venilator
01.22.2012 , 08:30 PM | #135
Quote: Originally Posted by pawestman View Post
Ignoring a faction completely will piss them off more. WAR still has a good number of subscribers as well.
Have you played WAR? It is a shadow of itself from Launch. Back in Launch the servers were actual WARZONES. Praag was on fire filled with the corpses of dead player characters and there wasn't one place you could find a massive ugly battle.



Fast foward now where you see one or two fortresses being attacked.... The servers went from what.... 51 servers to 4.......



Lets put that in perspective... THEY STARTED WITH 51 US SERVERS.... The now only have 4.

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Chia_Pet
01.22.2012 , 08:42 PM | #136
I would love to play a jawa...

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SobyOne
01.22.2012 , 08:46 PM | #137
I have a level 50 assassin on Port Nowhere. Got to 50 and saw the patch 1.1. Have not played on the empire side since. Rerolling a scoundrel (even through the dumb nerf) to play the underdog and feel a sense of pirde for my faction. While i must say the empire has it better (better looking armor, BW biast ie. dirty kick, easier planets i find) i wanted to play the Republic becasue the Empire just sucks! BW better add some of the stuff you and many other suggested or GW2 here i come.
The Knowsnothing Legacy- Port Nowhere>Prophecy of the Five

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Hawtubb
01.22.2012 , 08:51 PM | #138
we need to hear something
Pre - CU Jedi/BH Naritus
Hawtubb/Captain/Hawtubbbaca
the stunning Open World PVP on Ilum; when you get to the high levels prepare to be blown away! lol BioFail http://www.swtor.com/blog/what%E2%80...t-old-republic

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pawestman
01.22.2012 , 08:51 PM | #139
Quote: Originally Posted by GeLopez View Post
Kind of weird the OP doesn't include introducing faction population caps to Ilum, considering that's the most sensible solution.
Why would I suggest this when it's already been done?

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AngelicFrosty
01.22.2012 , 08:51 PM | #140
Quote: Originally Posted by RemyDMartin View Post
Funny I played "vanilla (as the kids are calling it these days)" world of warcraft back in the day before it got ridiculous and remember being one of the few horde in a mass of "good guy" alliance...
<3 someone else who actually PLAYED WoW and not this new age crap of cata players who think they know everything......

people concintrate on what they think looks the coolest and most fun, great example look at the original WoW trailer, which looks cooler to play horde or allaince: Alliance and there was an unbalanced ratio in favor of the allaince. Most people dont 'try out' multiple chars on both sides to see what they like best till later, they stick with 1-2 chars who they think will be fun from what they see

also gonna bounce this to some other points:

1) who ever mentioned that gear ISNT the issue right now you are full of some big ****. yes once we all have pvp gear there isnt much an issue but when 1 side is full of people in more pvp gear then the other in this game that IS THE ISSUE!

Let me explain to you how expertise works: the more of it you have the harder you hit and the less dmg you take. so if you have more gear then me you have increased dmg output and what dmg i should be doing to you is now reduced. as you get more exp faster then me this gap increases even more. how this happens/ed is because more sith got geared up prior to 1.1 since, yes, there were more sith 50s so the imblance started there and leads to point #2

2) if you are winning games you are probably getting 100+ commidations (or atleast i was before 1.1), now when i win maybe 2-3 games a day out of 10+ im only getting 500-600 commidations a day, so im not finishing my dailies since ilum is a ****fest for Rep (lost 2 bags there about every other day not counting the ones from commidations). Welcome to the reduction in the amount of gear i can get compared to an Imp who hit 50 at the same time as me. and this leads to #3

3) frustration of Rep pvpers, there have been many times i quit pvping cause i just spent 2-3 hours without a single win..... go do that and tell me if you are having fun and want to continue pvping which is the only way to help myself in pvp

solution for pvp:
give us any way to help fill the gap of not having ANY expertise to those with a lot so it can be fair with the side inbalance, you fix the WZ ilum wont really matter at such an early stage in the game