Social points....

You're missing the point.

The title of the points is what makes it dishonest and hypocritical, but forcing people to do group PvE for what is actually role play gear, is bad regardless.

It's not that I don't "get it".... I do.

I just think it's stupid for the game to try and make people play a certain way if they don't enjoy playing that way, especially through restricting Role Play gear to PvE players.

This is my biggest issue with social. Do PvPers require social tiers to buy their commendation gear? Apparently grinding a large amount of space missions for the fleet commendations isn't enough for Bioware.

In regard to the lack of points i've gotten over my 8 toons, i'd actually like to see the legacy system grant you the ability to combine your social points across all toons. Some of my toons i group a lot but most i don't group at all, and whenever i do group it gets put together after the first convo and disbanded before the last one so even with flashpoints i get none.

In the end it seems less of a 'social' system and more of a 'ingame conversation' system. I talk to friends and socialise with others plenty ingame, but i don't get a single point for that.

I really don't care what they intended or what they want me to do. They (and you) need to wake up and realize that trying to make people do things they'd rather not do in the game is not going to keep people playing, but drive them away instead. How many flop MMOs have to come and go before people get this?

I'm level 50 and have completed every flash point multiple times, as well as hard modes and heroic quests as well. I am only Social II. Your full of bantha fodder, there is no way you have a 29 and a 37 with Social 4 unless you were grinding flashpoints and group quests for the points the second you hit level 10. Don't make up B.S numbers to support your side when you are just making stuff up, it destroys competent conversation.

Yep, the whole social points system is one big pain in the butt.

Ugh. reminds me of QQ about the AQ scepter quest.

If it isn't hard then the reward isn't worth it.

Stop.

Please.

I don't want to see "party time" titles on lvl 16s.

I'd be satisfied if I had one way to earn social points. Unfortunately I have been stuck at 250/750 social 1 for I don't know how long. Common bug, but no eta from bioware about when they might get around to fixing it.

I think I understand the real issue between us now. You want mini games, quickly repeatable events and ways to "grind" points. You are use to the other MMOs where leveling is fluff and endgame is the real game.

Bioware has constructed an MMO where they would like leveling and story and making alts to exprence other classes stories. With endgame seemingly the afterthought.

I know you will automatically get defensive by this statement but try to understand it.

I have all the social points I will need in game at lv 29. Never did any mission twice never grinded anything or otherwise felt forced to do something for points. I played the game like I wanted. With friends and thus I was rewarded for it. I dont flaunt my points or think myself superior but i do think that I deserved them.

Lets not turn this into an arguement about what it means to be "social" because that isn't going to change the fact that you have to do (x) to get (y) points

Plus I DO see the pvp analogy as correct. If somebody said my character is extreamly valorous, I exude valor in all of my missions while leveling but I dont have valor points... I would tell them, it doesn't matter how valourus you think you are, that is moot. what matters is wether or not you participated i pvp..

Just "role play" that you are wearing the role play gear.

I have been running FPs constanly on my healer. Almost rank 3 at level 30. Having said that it does seem like you need too many FPs.