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Cross-server Flashpoint finder -- Still very badly needed

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Cross-server Flashpoint finder -- Still very badly needed

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Marmerus
01.22.2012 , 09:27 AM | #251
Quote: Originally Posted by pokher View Post
I don't know what server or side you are playing, but Republic side on the Elysium server isn't anti-social at all. There just isn't ppl in gen/trade chat being e-tards. When I'm out on a world, gen chat isn't really all that quiet during peak times. IF there were a LFD tool, ppl wouldn't even bother getting to know people on the server (as was the case when I still played wow) because it was all about lfd/lfr so you didn't have to go through the trouble of finding out who sucks... you must've not played wow in vanilla or were just a baddie that wasn't given a raid slot. And btw, not a single ninja yet out of 7 days played across 3 toons.




EXACTLY
General chat or barrens chat is the same thing.

People don't bother getting to know eachother. It has nothing to do with the tool. The only thing the tool does is move the spam from /1 into a single button that forms the group for you. This way you can be out if the world questing and interacting with other players instead of jumping around in imperial fleet doing nothing but spam /1 until you get a party.

Yes I played WoW in vanilla and I did raid. I had no problems finding people for dungeons just because the population on the servers was a lot higher.

And your comment about me being a baddie just shows you start flaming and trolling when you lack arguments. Please grow up if you want to post more on the forum or ask your mom to help you.
@ Bioware
Stop trolling the EU. Fix the downtimes to the middle of the night and not in the middle of the morning / day.

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grueber
01.22.2012 , 09:31 AM | #252
Quote: Originally Posted by AHierophant View Post
Spot on. I think a lot of the trouble here is that everyone wants to join a group being formed, not form a group. So they'll sit waiting for someone else to start a group. The kicker is when you see someone asking for more to do X, you join, and they immediately pass off lead and say "need tank/heals going AFK". They'll alt-tab and never come back until you find all the rest, which means they won't even begin to move to the location X is at until the group is full and waiting there.

I just kick them anymore when they do this.
So if everyone wants to "join" a group why not give them the feature they want?

I am not a noob. I formed groups for EQ1 where I had to whisper to ppl all over the server.

Sure I can say LFM at fleet. Go to the world with ppl at the same lvl range and check in chat. Or if I am desperate, go old school and start whispering.

It doesn't excuse bioware from leaving out a much desired feature.

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Gavin_Darkl
01.22.2012 , 09:34 AM | #253
Quote: Originally Posted by pokher View Post
Honestly, guilds and friends really aren't a necessity in wow anymore. LFR (which is related to LFG in concept) made sure of that. They made it so that you didn't have to work for it. But why are we talking about that POS game again? oh, yeah... people want to ruin this game with the same tools that wrecked that one. What happened to work your *** off to make something happen? Raiding/Ops is a reward/privilege, not a right.
This ^

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Gavin_Darkl
01.22.2012 , 09:35 AM | #254
Quote: Originally Posted by pokher View Post
A good guild is typically a guild full of people that have the same mindset as you and have the same aspirations as you do. If there are none, make one. If come ops time it's full of baddies then teach them. End-game content isn't supposed to be a faceroll, it's a learning experience and if people can't learn then they don't go anymore. I'm not sure if the last part fits what you consider a "good guild" but that seems to be the general consensus from ex wow players. From what I saw in the last months it was less about having fun and more of "My e-peen is bigger than yours"
This too^


Find a guild people stop being lazy and waiting for a computer to do the work for you.

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Gavin_Darkl
01.22.2012 , 09:42 AM | #255
Quote: Originally Posted by O-WenIshii View Post
The LFD tool in WoW worked well if you had the gear to make it work well. I played alliance in WotLK as a tank, and if I saw that our healer had decent gear, I switched to DPS and we facerolled through with an average dps of about 7k (because aoe is op). I switched to horde and always queued as tank and always played DPS in dungeons, because the three dps usually had an average dps of 2k. Still, the healer and I ran through the dungeon in under 15 minutes, and I didn't care about the other three, I wanted the emblems of frost, and that was all.


But lets get away from actually running dungeons and go to SWTOR. I won't EVER set foot in Directive 7, even though I want to, since I've never been there. Because three hours of looking for a tank is just too much. I gave up trying to find groups for anything, because I honestly don't want to spend hours looking for somepony I will never find. I usually just do some stuff on the fleet, and if I don't see a "LF Healer for X Hardmode" in that time I do dailies or log off and get what SWTOR fails to provide: fun playing a game, instead of trying to play a game. And nopony wants to run hardmodes, or they already have healer. But hey, lets not allow dualspec, it sucks SO hard, since you can do crazy stuff like... Find groups for FPs faster.

Up to now it has just been scumbag Bioware releasing a game that you can't actually play as soon as you hit lvl 50.

Or maybe I should do what a lot of people here say I should do. Join a guild with such a crapload of members that there are ALWAYS enough people online to run dungeons. They call it "being social". I call it BS, because I like the guild I am in right now, even if they are not all lvl 50. Seems like either you are on an overpopulated server in a huge guild or you don't play.
Having 200+ members does not equal a good guild. Research your guild, ask them questions before you join. Be willing to fill out a guild application on their website, (Guilds that force you to do this are more selective then random inviting guilds.) If you find the right guild for you, you will benefit 10 fold. It just takes effort to find them, too many guilds are either Communities of 200+ members were you either have to be apart of the core membership to get anywhere, or you need to bring a core group of friends in. Too many people think that more members equals success. This is short sightedness.

For example if you were to join my guild I would read the application, you would have a 30 day trial membership. If you acted immature or did not mesh well with the people in the guild you would be removed. If you acted mature and meshed with members, along with played during our peak times you would most of the time find a group for what ever you wanted. People here are foaming at the mouth to do Hard modes and normal flashpoints, even warzones. Alls it takes is an active person wanting to join an active guild during the guild's peak time. AKA Finding a guild that fits you.

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Marmerus
01.22.2012 , 09:44 AM | #256
Quote: Originally Posted by Gavin_Darkl View Post
This ^
I hope you understand he was trolling. If you use the LFR tool you just get easy mode raids and not the best equipment in the game. You need a end-game guild if you want to do the raids the hard way and get good loot.
@ Bioware
Stop trolling the EU. Fix the downtimes to the middle of the night and not in the middle of the morning / day.

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grueber
01.22.2012 , 09:45 AM | #257
Quote: Originally Posted by Gavin_Darkl View Post
This too^


Find a guild people stop being lazy and waiting for a computer to do the work for you.


Ironic how you are calling people lazy for not having the RL time for a guild in a video game.

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Gavin_Darkl
01.22.2012 , 09:49 AM | #258
Quote: Originally Posted by grueber View Post
Some of us don't WANT to join guilds. Being in a guild is a serious time commitment. Yeah it's great if you have the RL time for it. There are alot of people out there who don't have that time. I don't want to join a guild just to be a leech. Yet that's what I would be because I don't have big blocks of time to raid or help out others.

If your guild is so crappy that you feel threatened with a /lfg tool then it's not a very good guild.
Then you are choosing to Fail.

Joining a guild is no time commitment at all and you are fooling yourself if you think so. Many of my members (And soon including myself) have families, kids, and a full time job. They only play 2 to 4 days a week, sometimes more yes when they are not busy.

So no this is not even an excuse for why you can not find a guild. Its just a reason why you do not want to be social and find the right guild for yourself. You are just playing the poor poor me card and sitting in the corner asking for BW to give you the game without effort.

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Gavin_Darkl
01.22.2012 , 09:53 AM | #259
Quote: Originally Posted by AHierophant View Post
Spot on. I think a lot of the trouble here is that everyone wants to join a group being formed, not form a group. So they'll sit waiting for someone else to start a group. The kicker is when you see someone asking for more to do X, you join, and they immediately pass off lead and say "need tank/heals going AFK". They'll alt-tab and never come back until you find all the rest, which means they won't even begin to move to the location X is at until the group is full and waiting there.

I just kick them anymore when they do this.
I agree with this as well. Most people just want to join a group and not forum a group. For every 1 Looking for Member message I see I see 20+ LFG messages. This is because people want everyone else to do it for them, or they want a tool to do it for them. Its not a Lack of people, is a Lack of willing to take responsibility to be successful.

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Gavin_Darkl
01.22.2012 , 09:58 AM | #260
Quote: Originally Posted by Marmerus View Post
I hope you understand he was trolling. If you use the LFR tool you just get easy mode raids and not the best equipment in the game. You need a end-game guild if you want to do the raids the hard way and get good loot.
Yea which is why I am completely against any Automated LFD/G/R tool. Its takes a few days but if you find yourself a quality guild. (Not a guild with a ton of people) you will not have problems during peak times with getting into groups.

O and FYI Raiding is a privilege its not really a right. Yea you can say well I pay $15 a month so I should get everything handed to me. I would counter with, why are you paying $15 a month when you can pay $30 total for a single player game cheat and get all the stuff you wanted in game in a matter of how fast you can google the cheats? If you pay $15 a month be willing to put some effort into it, not to have a computer create your groups then make the instance so easy you can faceroll it without effort.