Cross-server Flashpoint finder -- Still very badly needed

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Cross-server Flashpoint finder -- Still very badly needed

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O-WenIshii

01.22.2012 , 07:28 AM \| #241
The LFD tool in WoW worked well if you had the gear to make it work well. I played alliance in WotLK as a tank, and if I saw that our healer had decent gear, I switched to DPS and we facerolled through with an average dps of about 7k (because aoe is op). I switched to horde and always queued as tank and always played DPS in dungeons, because the three dps usually had an average dps of 2k. Still, the healer and I ran through the dungeon in under 15 minutes, and I didn't care about the other three, I wanted the emblems of frost, and that was all. But lets get away from actually running dungeons and go to SWTOR. I won't EVER set foot in Directive 7, even though I want to, since I've never been there. Because three hours of looking for a tank is just too much. I gave up trying to find groups for anything, because I honestly don't want to spend hours looking for somepony I will never find. I usually just do some stuff on the fleet, and if I don't see a "LF Healer for X Hardmode" in that time I do dailies or log off and get what SWTOR fails to provide: fun playing a game, instead of trying to play a game. And nopony wants to run hardmodes, or they already have healer. But hey, lets not allow dualspec, it sucks SO hard, since you can do crazy stuff like... Find groups for FPs faster. Up to now it has just been scumbag Bioware releasing a game that you can't actually play as soon as you hit lvl 50. Or maybe I should do what a lot of people here say I should do. Join a guild with such a crapload of members that there are ALWAYS enough people online to run dungeons. They call it "being social". I call it BS, because I like the guild I am in right now, even if they are not all lvl 50. Seems like either you are on an overpopulated server in a huge guild or you don't play.

BMBender

01.22.2012 , 07:43 AM \| #242
Quote: Originally Posted by Mormack Also, Servers are not light load since Free month Ended. I never see a light server during peak hours....On EU or NA. which faction you play has a huge impact on ones success finding groups as well. The most robust freinds list in the world wont help if they stop logging in and on some servers only Raid and WF guilds staying healthy. Edit: That was actually supposed to quote someone else ermm oooops? ninja quote FTW
The only thing that should impact a players success/failure in pvpplayervsplayeris his/her skill not what they are wearing. Otherwise call it GvG gear vs gear, crunch the #'s in a calc, face-roll your keyboard, and go watch TV.polls by paulolesonhttp://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=164486pollhttp://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=164530

grueber

01.22.2012 , 07:47 AM \| #243
Some of us don't WANT to join guilds. Being in a guild is a serious time commitment. Yeah it's great if you have the RL time for it. There are alot of people out there who don't have that time. I don't want to join a guild just to be a leech. Yet that's what I would be because I don't have big blocks of time to raid or help out others. If your guild is so crappy that you feel threatened with a /lfg tool then it's not a very good guild.

Basiliscus

01.22.2012 , 07:50 AM \| #244
Honestly, i dont see much community on my server, republic side, everyone just sits in fleet queuing for warzones, everyone just masses outside the pvp vendors and does that all day. Granted its a pvp server, but I didnt realize that meant that no one would want to pve at all.
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pokher

01.22.2012 , 08:05 AM \| #245
If your goal is to raid then you need to have the time to commit to it, simple as that. Raiding is not just "show up, pew pew, here's your loot". It's about progress and working towards a goal to the point where loot is a reward and you have a sense of accomplishment. In wow, my guild spent a month trying to get through MC and down Rag. When we did, I felt very, VERY accomplished. THAT is what games like this are about to those of us that don't PVP. As far as guilds go, all we did was pick up people that are like us. I wasn't a founding member but since I joined we have recruited at least 20 people who are regular players and are all around good people. Only need 16 for ops guys, that's not hard to get. I suppose I'm not QQ-ing as bad because I am a tank and we have at least 4 healers of appropriate level in my guild. Another question if I may, how hardcore of a player are you to be 50 already? I've been playing only 2 toons (for almost a month) and one is 36, the other is 13. You can't expect everyone to just rush to 50 if you so chose to and then whine about it later. Alright, I'm done ranting. It's time to hop back on.

MareLooke

01.22.2012 , 08:24 AM \| #246
Quote: Originally Posted by AeonWeapon I'm getting tired of trying to find teams for flashpoints and having to spend a half hour or more in general chat repeating LFG LFG LFG LFG every 5 minutes before finding a group. So many times lately I'm finding I just don't want to waste time doing it so I log out and do something else with my time. I have limited time to play, about 1-2 hours at the most in a weekday, and I don't want to waste that time. I want to just get in and be playing the mission I want to play within 5-10 minutes. Additionally, this is more a problem lately, because server population is light since the first month ended. I knew this would happen. Too many servers were made because everyone was crying for early access and then queues, but then so many players didn't play beyond the first month that came with the game. Now we're left with the player base scattered far across so many servers. Also, after the initial new game excitement wears off and people get it out of their system a bit and settle in, even subscribers generally play less each day. We badly need a LFG tool to quickly get teams together for group content. And now people are going to say a bunch of nonsense crap about how this would kill community, but there's little community anyway. So many people are antisocial and don't want to team up with anyone for any missions but flashpoints. So many don't bother with heroics, people only team if they have the same mission because there's no incentives, the level 50 flashpoints aren't even bothered with because people don't care about the stories and just want to leap into hard mode at 50 for gear gear gear gear. Everyone jsut wants gogogogogogogo for more gear, more creds, more xp, spacebar through everything, stop chatting, let's gogogo. Most people don't bother even turning in missions together and sharing dialogue for social points when they do team with you, they just go "k thx bye" left team. There's little community, and what little community there is would be helped by a LFG tool, not harmed. TL;DR = There's less players now, we're all spread out on alot of light population servers, takes too long to find a team, ruins fun, we badly need a fast cross-server tool to find groups for flashpoints. Bad solution to the wrong problem. If they'd fix the repair bills so I'm not FORCED to do dailies every day just to stay afloat and if half their gosh darn bosses actually WORKED then I wouldn't mind so much to PUG, as it is now I refuse to PUG as a bad group will bankrupt me. (not to mention that the amount of bugs already isn't doing any good for my blood pressure as is)
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Crunchyblack

01.22.2012 , 08:36 AM \| #247
I would just like to point out, and forgive me if it was already mentioned, i wont be reading every post in this thread... LFM works about 500x better than LFG in chat. Yeah it takes about a fraction more of effort but the results are so much better...just make sure you start out LFM Heals/Tank until heals and tank are found, if DPS responds during this phase of the mission his IQ is too low for the group. Once Tank/heals is found then LFM 2 DPS last spots ect. You will have group in no time. OR Keep spamming LFG in hopes someone will do it all for you and toss you an invite then complain that its a problem with the game itself and requires coding to fix... cross server anything is terrible...not so much in the bad types of people you get stuck with, just the good type of people you want to play with or a clan you want to join but cant since they are on another server ect. Its a tool for the lazy and the anti social so i guess this wouldnt apply to them.

BMBender

01.22.2012 , 08:41 AM \| #248
Quote: Originally Posted by Crunchyblack I would just like to point out, and forgive me if it was already mentioned, i wont be reading every post in this thread... , if DPS responds during this phase of the mission his IQ is too low for the group. I R DPS i is resent U die EDIT just out of curiosisity how much IQ does it take to pew pew?
The only thing that should impact a players success/failure in pvpplayervsplayeris his/her skill not what they are wearing. Otherwise call it GvG gear vs gear, crunch the #'s in a calc, face-roll your keyboard, and go watch TV.polls by paulolesonhttp://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=164486pollhttp://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=164530

AHierophant

01.22.2012 , 08:54 AM \| #249
Quote: Originally Posted by thecoffeecup We don't need that. But we would benefit from server merges/character transfers and a server-only group finder. (you) I've not seen a Light server during peak yet. The closest to it are the last servers opened, which are still standard and Republic heavy, if you can believe it. But if BioWare's data indicates the need for a merger, it would be wise to do so. Not sure about character transfers, but I am not totally against them. (op) I haven't had trouble getting FP (or even heroics) on my server, and I am Republic. I built a friends list with people who were social, competent, and active. Some lagged behind me in levels, some ahead, but overall it's great to have a static group of people to run with. I suggest doing the same. I ignore anyone rude or does the GOGOGOGO huriplzspcbar gogogog crap.
Looking to rer-roll from your graveyard to a healthy PvE-East Server? Try Juyo!

AHierophant

01.22.2012 , 09:01 AM \| #250
Quote: Originally Posted by Crunchyblack I would just like to point out, and forgive me if it was already mentioned, i wont be reading every post in this thread... LFM works about 500x better than LFG in chat. Yeah it takes about a fraction more of effort but the results are so much better...just make sure you start out LFM Heals/Tank until heals and tank are found, if DPS responds during this phase of the mission his IQ is too low for the group. Once Tank/heals is found then LFM 2 DPS last spots ect. You will have group in no time. OR Keep spamming LFG in hopes someone will do it all for you and toss you an invite then complain that its a problem with the game itself and requires coding to fix... cross server anything is terrible...not so much in the bad types of people you get stuck with, just the good type of people you want to play with or a clan you want to join but cant since they are on another server ect. Its a tool for the lazy and the anti social so i guess this wouldnt apply to them. Spot on. I think a lot of the trouble here is that everyone wants to join a group being formed, not form a group. So they'll sit waiting for someone else to start a group. The kicker is when you see someone asking for more to do X, you join, and they immediately pass off lead and say "need tank/heals going AFK". They'll alt-tab and never come back until you find all the rest, which means they won't even begin to move to the location X is at until the group is full and waiting there. I just kick them anymore when they do this.
Looking to rer-roll from your graveyard to a healthy PvE-East Server? Try Juyo!

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