Slippery Slope

Seems to me you gave up and started to level another toon, But now you hav more? Hmmm

Btw did you not read the rest of my post?

Fact. What happened after the patch was not what the developers desired.
Fact. Everyone knew that they were getting a larger sum of valor than could possibly be intended.
Fact. On my servers the Republic simply had an almost zero percent change to fight back.
Fact. Bioware acknowledged that this was a mistake and that some people benefited greatly from an unbalanced system.
Fact. Bioware already stated no roll backs and not even a roll back for everyone involved in Ilum.
Fact. If you camped Ilum for 8 hours with your snickering guildmates your the same kind of jerk that abuses guard and the acid pit in Huttball then blames either the side your camping or Bioware for your knowing ABUSE of a system.
Fact. Only players that abused the system will be affected. If you gained more valor that day then the last 2 weeks you should expect to have Bio come knocking.

Opinion. I don't feel like any of the rewards were "worked for" or "gained". spamming AoEs for 8 hours doesn't constitute a rewardable behavior nor does constantly demolishing a far outnumbered enemy.

Opinion. I agree it was Biowares fault and it negatively affected whichever group was outnumbered badly. However I doubt many people that in many views abused the short term mega imbalance complained. I doubt that while those people were camping they were also filling in tickets or posting on the forums. Since it was Biowares fault Bioware has decided on a fix. The small group of players that caused so much grief for their opposite faction should not gain greatly from that. They broke it and now they fixed it. If a cash truck accidently crashes it's the drivers fault. But if you walk away with a wad of bills their gonna come for it.

Opinion. If they were to simply fix the issue and not look at the players that benefited greatly they would set a terrible precedent. It would be "Hey have you noticed that X new system implemented has a terrible imbalance? Lets abuse the **** out of that and nothing bad will come".

Please take note that I used the word "abused" and not the word "exploited". Simply because what they technically did was "legal" (for our intents and purposes. best word I could find) doesn't mean it was right nor does it mean Bioware has to sit with their thumbs up their asses till the fix it and then lets the abusers off with a naughty finger wave.

Yes.

Now come on over to my server, I will gladly get on my Warrior Juggernaut and prove to you I am in full champion (Again save for the belt).

Torquemoda, Sith Assasin. Mandalorian the Indomitable I think is the server name. Mandalorian the whatever. Only sever with the name. Message me, and I will get on my Juggernaut to prove to you I am not some scrub who has gotten to Rank 60 and has no gear.

Be there in 4 mins.. meet on korriban? k

If you want to sit there and act like I have no idea what I am talking about, then you message my Assassin and I will swap over.

I also have almost a second set of PvP DPS gear. Chest, belt, pants, gloves, a couple of the relics, generator, off the top of my head. Maybe helmet/boots cant remember.

I think this hits it right on the head. This was Bioware's failure in game design. If they had a killzone that actually worked, or more defense turrets to repel invaders then this would not have happened.

Anyone who designs a multi-user system or database knows that the user should never be able to break the system. If they do, that is just bad design.

My thoughts exactly. The first thing I thought of, the first time I EVER encountered the base on Illum, was "One gun turret. 2 million health. I wonder if I can attack it with enough players and destroy it without dying?" This was before the change to the system.

Warhammer had the best system overall. Instant death in the base.

Still waiting for the Jawa.

Cool, didnt kno this was a PvP gear show and tell thread.

Back to the point. BioWare is implementing some new features in the attempt to "balance" world pvp. But thats just the thing. Its 'World PvP" Its gonna be unfair at times and you hav to deal with it. If you want for fairness then que for a warzone. And again the issue is with the imbalanced number of players between empire and republic that BioWare has no control of. From what i've heard WoW was the same at the start, think they said it was Alliance heavy at the start. This game is only about a month old, The imperial / bad guy side has always been the most popular with Star Wars lore and we can see that here by the overwelming number of empire players.

Give the game time to mature and im sure we will see more of a balance between the factions.

You accused me of not having a level 50 toon. I countered it by being more than willing to show you my level 50 toon's PvP gear, plus show I had a level 48 toon. Now you back down.

That's all fine and dandy, as long as BioWare doesn't punish those who engage in PvP.

It's really easy to say some things when you have 5 to 1 in the world and battlefield. If they use the easiest way to balance it that's equal number to each side, so the faction with higher population need to wait sombody leave the battlezone, a lot of imps will cry about it. Some statements easy when lose a benefit.