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Bag RNG System: Aging Poorly


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JackKerras
01.21.2012 , 09:10 PM | #291
Quote: Originally Posted by Sanctuss View Post
I hit 50 today and have had great luck in terms of gear to bag ratio... 5/8 so far.

However 3 of those 5 gear tokens were gloves.

What the ****?
Eeeeeyep.

Warhammer Online made the same mistake. Loot bags just always had ****in' shoulders in them for me. Always shoulders!

Also, nothing but White Lion gear dropped, and I never brought a White Lion to PvE with me.

THAT, at least, they fixed in this game. I don't see gear for classes that aren't present dropping very much at all, but I may be lucky.

The PvP loot system, though? Trash. My fix would bring it right up to spec and it would take HOURS for an INTERN to make happen. Why in the world we have no answer to this yet, I cannot imagine.

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ijii
01.21.2012 , 09:15 PM | #292
I was thinking of making a thread about this myself.

Out of 44 bags I've gotten:

3 relics, 3 implants, 1 shield generator, 1 saber (36th bag btw).

The problem with this is: I'd rather have gloves, boots, chest, waist, bracers, legs. So of the 6 things I've been wanting, I've gotten a big fat 0... out of 44 bags !!!

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JackKerras
01.21.2012 , 09:25 PM | #293
Quote: Originally Posted by ijii View Post
I was thinking of making a thread about this myself.

Out of 44 bags I've gotten:

3 relics, 3 implants, 1 shield generator, 1 saber (36th bag btw).

The problem with this is: I'd rather have gloves, boots, chest, waist, bracers, legs. So of the 6 things I've been wanting, I've gotten a big fat 0... out of 44 bags !!!
Well, thanks for bumping mine instead of making your own! I'm pretty sure it'll get more attention with, y'know, views in the five digits and all five-star ratings. ^_^

Here's hoping, anyway! I'd really like it if something could be done about this, and I tried quite specifically to make a solution that's easy to execute.

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Ubax
01.21.2012 , 09:59 PM | #294
Any kind of PvP loot progression system other than RNG, please please please !
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Eradicatelol
01.21.2012 , 10:19 PM | #295
Quote: Originally Posted by ubax View Post
any kind of pvp loot progression system other than rng, please please please !
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JackKerras
01.21.2012 , 10:26 PM | #296
Quote: Originally Posted by Ubax View Post
Any kind of PvP loot progression system other than RNG, please please please !
Absolutely necessary, to my mind.

I'm not even hitting 50 yet. If nothing has been done about this before my next billing period (which is just about a month) then I'll start considering jumping ship. I'm generally very happy to stick with an MMO through some serious growing pains (I was with WAR since beta and subbed for nearly two years) but I have no interest in giving the same team money if they're going to make the same mistakes.

The PvP gear progression from 10 to 50 is -already- at the level that the WAR gear progression was at -in beta-, before it was released and changed to a stepped approach for all RvR-buyable gear. The stepped approach is much better for that whole momentum thing I've been beating on for the last thirty or so pages.

So! Yes. I need a change for this. I need to feel good about moving forward and getting stuff or I'm not going to stay interested in playing. Other folks get great stuff and my gear pieces are crap for no better reason than 'oops your rolls just aren't good enough', I peace out and poke my nose in as the months go by to see if ****'s fixed.

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Greyspectre
01.21.2012 , 10:30 PM | #297
This would be amazing. I would actually feel like I was working towards something. I really hate the bag system.

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Greyspectre
01.21.2012 , 10:37 PM | #298
What makes the bag system even worse is say you get 20 bags with nothing in them and you go and buy a piece of gear with commendations...that piece is still worse then the drop some other dude got out of his 2nd bag.

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Zaywin
01.21.2012 , 10:39 PM | #299
I don't like how endgame pvp gear is acquired. Why not make each piece cost 1000 merc commendations, would take the same amount of time...
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JackKerras
01.21.2012 , 10:49 PM | #300
Quote: Originally Posted by Zaywin View Post
I don't like how endgame pvp gear is acquired. Why not make each piece cost 1000 merc commendations, would take the same amount of time...
Please don't make suggestions like this.

This is the same lead designer who made my sidegrade wrench/gun pairing cost the equivalent of 118 hours to get, and that's if I won every game I played.

Making things cost a thousand of something that you only get between one and six of at a time (WAR's Scenario weapons) is a colossal grind. Yes, you are progressing towards a goal, but if I'm going to spend -several work weeks'- worth of time in PvP, I'd best ****in' come out the end of it with more than one piece of gear.

Especially with the -size- of the power-gap between fresh 50s and geared Battlemasters, I really think that making that linear progression less than six weeks long is worth a look. Not everyone has the sheer staying power to get wrecked on for weeks on end even if they -are- doing so for the promise of nice gear.

So, while I understand that you're being facetious and I know what you're saying, good heavens, please don't give them any ideas. They already did it poorly a couple times with the huge grind in Trial of Atlantis, New Frontiers, and the Scenario weapons in WAR.

Don't encourage them.

And do encourage this by continuing to bump and read, and thank you!