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Why are so many people against Arena in Swtor?

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Why are so many people against Arena in Swtor?

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Jezzikah
01.21.2012 , 07:14 PM | #71
As of now you can be a complete mess at your class and in WZ's, and still have access to high end PvP gear/titles.Once Arena comes out those players won't have the same access to high end gear/titles and feel it shouldn't be in the game.
It's the same as the casual PvEers who also don't want damage meters in game.

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SmokingGoose
01.21.2012 , 07:20 PM | #72
Quote: Originally Posted by bicuspid View Post
baddies cant take being exposed as baddies

the arena question is always answered the same way with the same excuses. not one person ever says "I hate arena because I wasn't good enough to get gladiator", which in 90% of the cases, is the truth.


face it baddies, when I landed next to you on my frost wyrm, you had to admit (even if it was very briefly, and only to yourself) that no matter what you did, this would be beyond your grasp


thats what mmo players don't like the most
Playing FOTM comps does not make a good player.

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Baneberry
01.21.2012 , 07:20 PM | #73
Quote: Originally Posted by Asamighost View Post
If you want us to take PVP seriously we will need ARENAS.
I dont care about WoW having Arenas or any other game, we as PVPers need them.
One thing is true, they need to fix the current PVP adn the ability delay first.
We don't wan't you to take pvp seriously. Pvp used to be fun, when it was a way to pass the time away after raids and before bed. But when pvp became all super serious, it became yet another grind fest that people we forced to take part of if they wanted to do pvp at all.

The pvp system in this game is already bad. Making it into an e-sport will only make it worse. Could you imagine the QQ of people when they want to compete in arenas but cant get geared due to champion bag RNG??? LOLOLOL!

hardcore pvp, killing MMO's since The burning Crusade!
I bring you pain, the kind you cant suffer quietly!

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DF-Syn
01.21.2012 , 07:20 PM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by Raencloud View Post
If you put in Arena, you must dedicate a significant amount of time into balancing the game around groups and comps of that size. This frequently led to balancing changes in WoW that impacted the viability of specs outside of arena, both in BGs and especially PvE content that were completely fine. This is a large reason to why I quit playing WoW. I do not want to see TOR follow the same fate.

My words exactly, tip of the hat to you sir... WoW tried too hard to balance classes around the arena which lead to epic fail... I do not want arena's in SWTOR... now maybe something along the lines of rated warzones? but even that is a maybe.... if they did implement an arena system and it DIDNT give better PVP gear than the normal gear obtained through WZ's i wouldn't mind.

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xtriadx
01.21.2012 , 07:22 PM | #75
Because they should focus on World PvP.

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muscarine
01.21.2012 , 07:24 PM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by xtriadx
Because they should focus on World PvP.
Yup, and because i personnaly don't play a MMO to pvp in a 12mē box all day long.

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Malbolgiaz
01.21.2012 , 07:27 PM | #77
Stop missing the point which is that the OP said the rewards would be the same. Hell I wouldn't care if arena gave no rewards and was just for fun/epeen.

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Kaliem
01.23.2012 , 09:09 PM | #78
Arena's in tbc was the most fun I have ever had in a mmo, and although I may of had the best it could offer and pretty titles and mounts spread out across several characters, I would still love it, if it gave no extra gear no titles, and sub par valor gain, and was just a little extra optional add in. see nothing wrong with that personally.

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BegaTasty
01.23.2012 , 09:20 PM | #79
its been said 100 times, Arena breeds 14 year old angst, hate an spam. Not to mention it destroys community. granted tor has no community, but it will jsut make it even worse.
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Steevog
01.23.2012 , 09:30 PM | #80
Arenas add a small group size pvp element to balance with the larger scale map types. You end up with healers that can keep people alive indefinitely or setups where two people could coordinate and cc/kill someone (a ball carrier for example) with no way to counter it. PVP balanced around 1v1, 2v2, or 3v3 really complicates trying to keep larger match sizes balanced at the same time.

A deathmatch warzone wouldn't be a bad idea, but if half the pvp crowd stopped quing for the objective based maps then pvp would lose a lot of it's depth. You can win huttball with coordination even if you are out geared and outnumbered, but in an arena setting it's a match of who has the best healing debuff, or who has the most cc, or who can stack dps buffs and burst the hardest. You end up with classes that are too strong in one pvp type and almost useless in the other type.

Also, adding a pvp type with a separate que than the current WZ que system would make the que times on lower population servers even longer. We need pvp improvements that increase the pvp population before we add things that separate it into niches.