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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

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face_hindu
01.21.2012 , 04:19 PM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by SnoggyMack View Post
That doesn't work in this instance. This is a situation where a person rolled on it because they liked the look of it. And that person could equip it.



There already are class specific orange items. This wasn't one of them.

This thread is about a Marauder rolling on an orange item they could equip and winning that roll over someone who could also equip it. The Marauder just wanted to look pretty. Well the orange items are there for people to look pretty.

This thread isn't as cut and dry as the one you came from Face. This one is murky. Because a strong case can be made that the Marauder just wanted the item because they liked the looks of it. And since that's what Orange items are for ...
I believe this situation was discussed in the other thread, and the opinion of the majority of posters there felt that Needing on an Orange with mods you can't use, but someone else can, is douchey. Destroying mods for the sake of the gear is not cool, in the opinion of most (in that thread). But I could be wrong. I haven't gone back and re-read that beast. I get too angry.

Cake is a lie; there is only pie.

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Dignam
01.21.2012 , 04:19 PM | #112
why do people post about this. If you do a pug anything bad is your own fault for not having a guild or 3 friends to play with. hell do it with 1 friend and companions. Also if someone does something like this you just remove them from group on the spot and move on.

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SnoggyMack
01.21.2012 , 04:19 PM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by MatTripp View Post
Half the flashpoints you can duo with pets anyway you dont need a full group of 4.
Hey, let's keep that info on the QT please. If people started to find out they could gear themselves and their companions up on their own ...

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Slurmez
01.21.2012 , 04:20 PM | #114
Quote: Originally Posted by CBGB View Post
...if anyone in that class is with your group.

I can't believe I'm posting about item rolls, or about this issue. People worry too much about loot, and I'm a big believer in just enjoying the game.
But poor claims hurt group dynamics, and there's no need for this kind of thing.

Today, a Sith Marauder rolled Need to get this
Cademimu Sharpshooter's Jacket
+34 Endurance
+38 Cunning
+18 Critical Rating


when I pointed out it was made for an Agent, like me, he said he intended to strip out the mods and trade them.

When I noted that the mods are Bound, he insisted that since he could wear it, he could roll. More surprising was that when he brought the issue to /General, a few voices agreed.

Most did not, but the others need to know that sort of claim i's a party-breaker. This is clearly an Agent item - a huge upgrade in my case - and my next group will get a little less healing as a result.

One of the pleasures of running Flashpoints is the chance to get gear suited to you. If it's better suited to someone else, leave it for them.
Be glad when you find someone doing this, it means you now know who is an *** and who not to team with, along with those agreeing with him on general.

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SnoggyMack
01.21.2012 , 04:21 PM | #115
Quote: Originally Posted by face_hindu View Post
I get too angry.

Cake is a lie; there is only pie.
You really need to relax and chill out.

How much ninja looting have you experienced in this game?

Like, here we have me. A self confessed ninja looter. And I can tell you other than Aim-Sabers, there's just not enough chances to do the deed. What kind of groups are you getting into? This game is so much fun and I've played with so many cool people. Grouping's been nothing but good times.
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corbanite
01.21.2012 , 04:26 PM | #116
Quote: Originally Posted by Descento View Post
if I am able to press NEED, then i'm allowed to do it


/thread
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jsdcaedus
01.21.2012 , 04:30 PM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by Descento View Post
if I am able to press NEED, then i'm allowed to do it


/thread

this is the sociopaths answer to everything.


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tarrmar
01.21.2012 , 04:30 PM | #118
At least in Operations there is a greatly reduced chance of this happening as the game simply decides who gets what gear from a boss. No one is able to roll need or greed on any of the gear.

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face_hindu
01.21.2012 , 04:32 PM | #119
Quote: Originally Posted by SnoggyMack View Post
You really need to relax and chill out.

How much ninja looting have you experienced in this game?

Like, here we have me. A self confessed ninja looter. And I can tell you other than Aim-Sabers, there's just not enough chances to do the deed. What kind of groups are you getting into? This game is so much fun and I've played with so many cool people. Grouping's been nothing but good times.
I still haven't had this happen, thankfully. I just get angry about the thought of it happening. I realize that I get more worked up about it than a calmer person does. Yet I keep coming back to these threads. Maybe I'm a masochist.

I can also see where there can be some major griefing happening the other way, too. Someone told me yesterday that her 11 year old adopted daughter Needed on something she couldn't use, and was called some very harsh names by people in the group. I think the ultimate issue here is about having respect for your group members in all sorts of different cases, and what kind of actions you may take that can convey disrespect for your group members.

Cake is a lie; there is only pie.

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DeathDiciple
01.21.2012 , 04:42 PM | #120
Quote: Originally Posted by face_hindu View Post
I still haven't had this happen, thankfully. I just get angry about the thought of it happening. I realize that I get more worked up about it than a calmer person does. Yet I keep coming back to these threads. Maybe I'm a masochist.

I can also see where there can be some major griefing happening the other way, too. Someone told me yesterday that her 11 year old adopted daughter Needed on something she couldn't use, and was called some very harsh names by people in the group. I think the ultimate issue here is about having respect for your group members in all sorts of different cases, and what kind of actions you may take that can convey disrespect for your group members.

Cake is a lie; there is only pie.
And I can also claim I'm who knows what, and therefore deserve all pity and compassion and... or I work for FBI and will get all of you arrested/killed/<insert your favorite qq hate mail>, blah someone said something on the internet.

On topic - PUGs in every game are same. People that should read forums do not, or couldn't care less. So it turns out like preaching to the choir. Some people yell, or get annoyed, but truth is, there is no way around it but making 'special' lists and moving on. Eventually they wont have many people to group with, or will group with likeminded people, whatever.

Most you can do is announce your expectations at the beginning of the FP, but even then, can't expect this game's PUGs to be much better than any other.