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Bioware caved in to the forum whines, prepare for the start of a doomed pvp game.

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Bioware caved in to the forum whines, prepare for the start of a doomed pvp game.

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Mattpatt
01.21.2012 , 03:33 PM | #131
Quote: Originally Posted by McVade View Post
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHJeM...eature=related

That's the video. Okay, we're even on stupid mistakes.

BTW: The fact this guy took on a 3v1 AND chose Final Fantasy 7 music for his video, I think, is exceptionally damning. I half-expected keyboard turning.
Half the video is someone getting ganked and the other is cc'd then the teamamate tries to run away for easy kills.

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belialle
01.21.2012 , 03:35 PM | #132
I just read 3 pages of this thread and had an epiphany.

I hate you all so freaking much.

Seriously, though. I hate you guys.

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BlackFridayRawks
01.21.2012 , 03:35 PM | #133
What a joke, any competent player who has played an Op knows all your damage is upfront. They should of just made the knockdown shorter and left the rest the same. At least there's still lethality tree I guess until more bad players complain about that too.

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Chaos_Distortion
01.21.2012 , 03:38 PM | #134
Quote: Originally Posted by BlackFridayRawks View Post
What a joke, any competent player who has played an Op knows all your damage is upfront. They should of just made the knockdown shorter and left the rest the same. At least there's still lethality tree I guess until more bad players complain about that too.
Yep, anyone who has played a scoundrel/operative dps spec at some point knows that the burst was all they had. Sustained dps is non existent so this nerf will destroy the class.
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BegaTasty
01.21.2012 , 03:40 PM | #135
Quote: Originally Posted by Chaos_Distortion View Post
The title says it all, Bioware like every other developer caved in to the very vocal forum minority which also usually tends to be some of the very worse MMO players in MMOs. This is the beginning of the end. Scoundrels/Operatives did not need a nerf Bioware, as a healer I say this. You need to test your game and use your own metrics before implementing any class changes in game. Do not go by made up scenarios and imaginary numbers that forum posters use to try to make a point. That's the mistake of past mmo devs that has caused their subscriptions to dwindle in the past and I say that as an MMO veteran since 1997 UO, that has played nearly every MMO since then. You should, if possible release surveys in game to also see how players feel about x and x changes before implementing them. You can also use surveys to see if players think some classes are over the top, currently. You will see that the majority of people that actually play the game at 50, don't feel like the random forum whiners/posers that aren't even 50 yet.
I agree totally mate, sadly now they are moving on to Sorc, then its gonna be guardian tanks (isdnt fair a tank can actually tank), then it will be something els. Trouble is Blizzard pandered to these people, now its all they expect. You couldn't drop these....."gamers" into a real MMO they would loose the plot with far to much diversity. Even a game as simple an narrow focused as tor is proving far to in depth . It's sad because tor had every little diversity in first place. Now it's going to lose it all, an just become Rift V2.0.

Hell there's even a crusade in place to demand botting/farming BG's be easier as its far to hard to farm shinys.

I think it just shows how far MMO's have fallen.

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McVade
01.21.2012 , 03:41 PM | #136
Quote: Originally Posted by Mattpatt View Post
Half the video is someone getting ganked and the other is cc'd then the teamamate tries to run away for easy kills.
Always a justification.

It's fair that ops can kill someone in 2.5 seconds because... <lame *** excuse with made up numbers>

It's fair that ops can kill 3v1 because... <lame *** excuse that isn't even true, but why bother pointing that out>

It cannot possibly be: "My class needs a tweak." That's just not even a consideration.

Enjoy your extremely justified nerf. I sure as heck will.
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Frankaficky
01.21.2012 , 03:42 PM | #137
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Yep, anyone who has played a scoundrel/operative dps spec at some point knows that the burst was all they had. Sustained dps is non existent so this nerf will destroy the class.
Dude you must really suck at PVP I trashed people on my level 11 operative and didn't even stealth half the time. With all that CC they don't need all that burst. If all you want is a one button win where's the fun in that. PLUS YOU CAN HEAL!!!! Massive burst plus heals come on. Your not a pure dps class if anyone needs buffs it's Sent/Mar.

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WickedImage
01.21.2012 , 03:43 PM | #138
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Here's how to win, stand up>dot>snare>get out of 10m. It's not hard
lol you say this as if one can just stand up when one wants to.....doesnt work like that and you know it.

translation:
I play one of these op'd classes and am angry that I will need l2p instead of just hitting my easy button.
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BegaTasty
01.21.2012 , 03:45 PM | #139
Quote: Originally Posted by Frankaficky View Post
Dude you must really suck at PVP I trashed people on my level 11 operative and didn't even stealth half the time. With all that CC they don't need all that burst. If all you want is a one button win where's the fun in that. PLUS YOU CAN HEAL!!!! Massive burst plus heals come on. Your not a pure dps class if anyone needs buffs it's Sent/Mar.
you are flat out making things up sorry. I have a 20 scoundrel an I do at a maximum crit 360 as an opening. Normally non crit is 200-210 You did NOT "wreck" anyone as you call it at all, that is made up sorry. As a dps class out of stealth you hit for double digits at best, an you dont do much dps over time at all. Couple that with no survivability an you really just made this up to jump on the band wagon.I dont bot BG's they are insulting to be called pvp, so in World pvp a scoundrel has to put up with fighting 1v21v5 an as we know if its more than 1 v 1 hes dead...

People that get insta killed are quite obviously low hp an ignoring the fact they are alone. They refuse to group up, refuse to have a tank "guard" them, an just wanna rambo it.

Now we will have sorcs nerfed then guardians then next class an next, an since there's only 4 it isn't going to take long. Irony is the same greedy players who are now making up complete fantasy will be back when their class is nerfed demanding it be changed.

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WickedImage
01.21.2012 , 03:50 PM | #140
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you are flat out making things up sorry. I have a 20 scoundrel an I do at a maximum crit 360 as an opening. Normally non crit is 200-210 You did NOT "wreck" anyone as you call it at all, that is made up sorry. As a dps class out of stealth you hit for double digits at best, an you dont do much dps over time at all. Couple that with no survivability an you really just made this up to jump on the band wagon.
Actually he is not making things up. I have a lvl 12 Op. My RL friend has the same thing. We had a ball killing people with these toons. They were a **** TON easier to kill with at this level than my assassin was. Nice try though.
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