No, You May Not Roll on Items for Another Class and Strip Out the Mods

Sorry, it's just the Gordon Gecko quote doesn't work for most people.

At least Snoggymack has a point for his ninja of an aimsaber...i mean really? why would they even let that combo be created?

It is impossible to change people.

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I'm amazed at the amount of selfishness in this thread, although I shouldn't be.

And people wonder why I promote solo play.

Simple fact. If I have a companion that uses equipment that I personally cannot then I can roll for that item.

The simple fact is that the companion is a part of my characters combat potential. Likewise if mods from an item can be used in something me and my companion can use then again, I can roll.

Don't like that? Don't team with me. Simple.

thread right there

The best course is to agree the loot rules before the first pull. That way, if you are grouped with someone who believes that 'need' includes stuff they want for their companions, cosmetics or to vendor for credits, there will be no surprises later. You can choose to replace them, leave or live with it.

Of course, people might lie. But that's probably a small subset of folks. Well, hopefully

Yes you certainly are. And I would never group with you.

However, you are too cowardly to post your server and toons, so many people will be victimised by you and your selfish, arrogant attitude, unfortunately.


Cake is a lie; there is only pie.

DOES ITEM = ORANGE?

IF YES, PROCEED ON.

IS ITEM MEDIUM? CAN WEAR MEDIUM?

IF YES, PROCEED ON

DO ORANGE ITEMS == COMPLETELY MODIABLE?

YES

STATS =/= RELEVANT

Marauders use medium armor.

Orange armor = completely customizable.

Ergo, he can take the stupid mods that do not matter to him out and put mods that do work for him in. Suddenly the item has stats to work for him.

Nope, apples to apples.

The laws in real life against murder are not physical constraints of the universe. You CAN, at any time, pick up a gun and shoot someone in the head. The law against it certainly won't prevent it from happening; it merely describes the consequences you will face if you decide to do this.

Law is merely a formalization of the social contract for some egregious scenarios. Outside the law, there are plenty of socially unacceptable human behaviors where the social contract is NOT formalized, yet we still consider violations of these unwritten protocols to be inappropriate or immoral. There is a giant difference between law and morality, in both directions.

Need rolling on orange items to trade mods is "allowed", as in there are no physical laws of the universe (or, in this case, the game engine) that prevent it, in exactly the same way that murder is allowed too. Sure, there's no written social contract on the expected behaviors and repercussions in this scenario, but that's not unusual for social interaction in human society.

What is under discussion here is the moral implication of doing so and the implied social contract of MMO games to which other gamers will hold your behavior accountable.

There are tons of good reasons that the need rolling behavior described by the OP might be morally reasonable and acceptable within the MMO social contract, but "because I can" is NEVER a valid argument for deciding which behaviors are acceptable and which aren't. Not just here, but in general for all decisions of morality in life, because that argument tends to be true for almost all behaviors under the sun, barring violations of the actual laws of physics. If it's effectively always true, it is effectively always useless for formulating a stance on morality.

Sorry, but no.

I can see people getting up in arms about needing for alts, for companions, etc.

If it's orange gear, and I can wear it, and it's fully moddable, and looks good, I am going to roll need if I like.

If it's restricted to a specific class, I won't. I like wearing BH style armor on my sith , and that's my choice.

A line needs to be drawn between fairness and entitlement.