Why do I feel like Bioware is not listening to the players ?

All right confirmed, this entire thread is not based in reality.

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Published loot tables?

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Has the OP not heard of TORHead or SWTOR Spy?

I think he just has no concept of the internet. I mean, it's not like it's hard to find what the devs have been saying.

Try reading the DEV Tracker. They respond quite a bit. Maybe you are just upset that they don't respond to your post personally.

A lot of these sorts of things are refinements and QOL issues that only come to games after a year or two in development. The devs have to get the core things working first, then the QOL stuff comes in gradually. This is what it's been like with every MMO I've ever known. That's why you can't compare MMOs that have been around for years with new ones.

To expect anything else is unrealistic, IMHO. An MMO is not a product that can be said to be "finished" at any given point in time, it's always something that evolves and gets refined - this is partly precisely because it has to fit the players (e.g. like a glove, as it were), and that "fit" can only be discovered over time, with the players in the game.

For example, a few of the things people have been clamouring for, I've seen some players here vehemently against (e.g. automatic cross-server LFD toolls). The devs have to figure out what the majority actually wants, and again, that takes time, and relies on data that they have and we don't (all we've got is our personal preferences and feelings). There are also points like this: be careful what you wish for. Devs are game designers and they know a whole bunch of stuff that you don't, about what is good for a game in the long run, versus what people clamour for "NAOW". Think about how long it took WoW to introduce a cross-server LFD tool. Was it because they couldn't code it? No, it's because they had to judge, on balance, the right time to introduce it (and that, as it happens, is past an MMO's peak - before that time, it's more destructive of community than it is a nice QOL thing).

-Wrong and..

-It was never meant to be for high-end rigs. Ever. They wanted to be able to shovel it off to everyone, and that worked amazingly. Unfortunately it drew in so many "satisfy me NOW, I don't have time to learn/play, where's my free stuff for paying" people that it's exactly that type of game now.


-Why are you comparing this to WoW? Everyone who compares this to another game in a poor manner should.. yeah you know... just go play the other game. If it has everything you're looking for, why are you not playing it?

I do read the Dev tracker. Compare the amount of official responses players get on here to the amount of official responses people get on the WOW forums; Blizzard's dev tracker will pretty much immediately show that there is much more interaction with the player base - a level of interaction which doesn't exist on TOR's forums.

I don't post anything directed at devs, or anything which I was like 'lol devs shud respond!', it's just an issue which irks me. I feel that interaction with the community is important, and while Bioware obviously listens to us, I don't think that they interact with us.

There have been a few instances where discussions with Ghostcrawler on WoW's forums (Ghostcrawler being the lead developer for WoW) have led to original and fun raid encounters.

I don't want TOR to be a copy of WoW, but I think it would greatly benefit the game/players/community if we had more interaction with the developers.

fixed it for you.

they got off to a slow start with community responses now they are doing excellently, much better than most mmo's I have been in (which is a lot)

You feel that they are not listening because they do not respond or comment on any of the suggestions or reports of bugs.

They simply let everyone keep posting, which turns into ranting usually, and it lays off for a bit, until someone (like you) feels the need to repost what other people have posted a multitude of times.

In other words, it's not that they are not listening. It is their silence and lack of fixes for your specific wishes that leads you to believe this.

I definitely would like a more communicative community moderator staff. But I guess this is just not what happens in MMO forums. Most of the games I have played, the moderators and the staff just allow the players to go on and on regardless of whether or not they are taking the suggestions under consideration or whether or not they reject them for whatever reason.

The only company that I have experienced that communicates in a proactive way with their playerbase is Trion.