Cross-server Flashpoint finder -- Still very badly needed

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Cross-server Flashpoint finder -- Still very badly needed

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AeonWeapon

01.21.2012 , 10:17 AM \| #41
Quote: Originally Posted by Umbral above and beyond everything else the point is to be able to play. Exactly
I'm hot and you're not. I'm on Tattooine, you're on Hoth. "Red thingy coming towards the green thingy. Wait, I think we're the green thingy!" --Galaxy Quest Give us LFG tool & gear appearance customizing please-or I'll blast the Wookie!

Zilkin

01.21.2012 , 10:19 AM \| #42
Quote: Originally Posted by SlickDevlan "Quality of life" in an MMO is always a code word for "please remove all the silly things I don't feel like doing". Intra-server, fine. Cross server, stupid. Intra-server LFD is pretty much useless. People don't just suddenly appear from nowhere to join your groups if they implement that. Most people LFG are already in the fleets, the minority that aren't wont make much difference in how fast groups are formed. I've seen MANY intra-server LFG group tools in different MMOs and none of them have actually worked to any noticeable degree.

Zerophin

01.21.2012 , 10:21 AM \| #43
Nothing drags MMO development down more than people that continue to hold on to past memories (while wearing rose-colored glasses) of how awesome it was sitting in places like Iron Forge spamming /1 LF Healer BRD or camping named mobs in EQ. Sadly these folks tend to be the most vocal while those that want "modern tools" are more apt to silently quit than spend months debating on an MMO forum.

corbanite

01.21.2012 , 10:23 AM \| #44
Why don't all you people who want LFD get together on the same server and playt together?
Say no to double-dip.. NO SUB+MT http://massively.joystiq.com/2011/08...e-a/#continued

Zerophin

01.21.2012 , 10:24 AM \| #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Zilkin I've seen MANY intra-server LFG group tools in different MMOs and none of them have actually worked to any noticeable degree. None of them have worked ... period. Eventually it degrades back to general chat. Remember how awful and unused the LF tools Blizzard tried to put in before LFD were? The core problem isn't the "getting people together" part - it's creating a big enough pool of players that lets you do so quickly. To get that pool you need to extend the reach beyond the server. You know an interim step may be to "cluster" servers into sets of 4-5 for LFD purposes. It's FREAKING MATH ... nothing else. Quote: Originally Posted by corbanite Why don't all you people who want LFD get together on the same server and playt together? That's a brilliant suggestion that totally solves the problem

AeonWeapon

01.21.2012 , 10:26 AM \| #46
Quote: Originally Posted by Zerophin None of them have worked ... period. Eventually it degrades back to general chat. Remember how awful and unused the LF tools Blizzard tried to put in before LFD were? The core problem isn't the "getting people together" part - it's creating a big enough pool of players that lets you do so quickly. To get that pool you need to extend the reach beyond the server. You know an interim step may be to "cluster" servers into sets of 4-5 for LFD purposes. It's FREAKING MATH ... nothing else. Makes complete sense to me. The fact is, a fraction of a server's population is online at the same time.
I'm hot and you're not. I'm on Tattooine, you're on Hoth. "Red thingy coming towards the green thingy. Wait, I think we're the green thingy!" --Galaxy Quest Give us LFG tool & gear appearance customizing please-or I'll blast the Wookie!

NovusAnimus

01.21.2012 , 10:27 AM \| #47
Please for the love of god no. Local LFG tool, sure. Cross-server? NO THANK YOU. Cross-server lfg tools should only be implemented for two-year-old content.

Blackardin

01.21.2012 , 10:27 AM \| #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Touchbass Hey Aeon! Yikes, sorry for all the negativity your getting here and personal attacks, looks like the elitiest are at it again. I actually agree with that a X-LFD is needed on some servers badly right now and I encourage you to join our discission in the LFD thread in the suggestion box thread found through the top of the General forums. For those who oppose the X-LFD and says it kills communities, I welcome your opinions and justifications. I do warn you though, me and a few others have openly challenged your claims of "It killed WoW", "It kills server cohesion", so you'll need to have something prepared other then a one line quip. The fact remains that a single server tool does nothing for people who play at difficult hours, sparce populated servers or have picked the wrong faction. But hey, don't expect them to care about it, they'd rather call you a cur and kick you to the curb. Here is a link for the lazy http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...184796&page=58 I didn't see anything "proven" by you. I do see this very large pink elephant in the room called WoW.....and yes, it was the beginning of the end for that game, but not, perhaps, as directly as you believe.

RocNessMonster

01.21.2012 , 10:28 AM \| #49
I love how they say LFD makes things faster, remember all the complaining about omg 40 minute queue for dungeon for DPS, remove the need for tanks!!!!!111oneone.
I need about tree fitty.

Touchbass

01.21.2012 , 10:29 AM \| #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Heliotic A global LFG channel would do the job just as easily as some 'dungeon finder'. Cross server groups are a cancer on an MMO and I'd ask anyone at Bioware thinking of implementing it to call up Blizzard and ask what their greatest regret is. Lets do that mock phone call Blizzard:"Hello, Blizzard Human Resources Department" SWTOR Fan: "Yeah, my name is Heliotic, i'm a SWTOR fan" Blizzard:"Hey, aren't you Undead warrior named Heliotic from the Mal'Ganis Server?" SWTOR Fan: "Why yes I am, my reputation is well known" Blizzard:"No, you're that jerk who didn't let me join your group cause my gearscore wasn't amazing" SWTOR:" Oh .. you mean a different Helitoic then, listen the reason I was calling was to confirm that your biggest regret was the LFD tool" Blizzard: "You mean the tool that helped stabalize subscriptions and worked so well we made the LFR feature; both of which are backbone reasons why WoW is so successful?" SWTOR fan:" ummm click" Blizzard: "Hello?"

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